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“V for Vendetta”

Haven't read the book, but based on this excerpt,I might have to go take a look at the movie. Although, poking around, I see the movie version has been disowned by the book's author. No surprise there.

Comments

  1. I saw it last night and loved it. As far as I know the author just really didn't want the movie to be made and vowed never to watch it. I'm not taking his disavowing of the movie as a stab at the movie itself, personally!

  2. I was planning to see it tonight, but a small misadventure got in the way. Months ago, I had heard some really good things about it, and from people who might be more likely than most to apply my kind of standards to it.

    The reason the author disavowed it is apparently that the movie didn't remain pure to his vision. Since that vision was to take down Margaret Thatcher, it carries no weight with me.

    It's still likely to be a right-bashing movie – which means in effect focusing on a few details at the edges while ignoring the wholesale slide into true fascism that originates mostly from the left – but there's enough chance that it won't be that I'm actually a little excited to see it.

    I'm fully prepared to be horribly disappointed.

  3. Book: Great!

    I'll go see the movie but will view it as a different medium.

  4. I'm intrigued by the movie trailer, but can't make much sense out of the comments I've read so far. It LOOKS like something along the lines of The Crow. Have I missed it entirely?

  5. Peter Rivendell says:

    I fancied this film as I loved the Matrix trilogy but it`s had very bad reviews. Hugo Weaving spends the entire film behind a mask so can`t really portray anything, Natalie Portman is unconvincing, the special effects are apparently cheap looking and it`s very muddled with awful dialogue. But it may be great!

  6. Well, Peter, looks like we can agree on something. I loved The Matrix. I'm talking about the first of the series. The subsequent issues were OK, but they didn't highlight the essential metaphor of the film as cleanly as the first one did.

  7. Well, I saw the film last night, and, not having read the book, I'd have to say I was pleased. Now I'll have to go get the book.

    The 'V' character struck me as a bit Ragnar Danneskjöld-esque from Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged. And, fortunately, the dialog surrounding his deeds of "destruction" are no less philosophical than in Atlas (for that part of it, anyway; if you want a comprehensive view of the philosophy, read Atlas).

    Here's what I said to my friends when we were walking out of the theater: "the best thing in the movie, with all that talk of fighting for freedom, is that I don't recall once hearing the word 'democracy.'"

    Now, go wrap your minds around that one.

    I'll have to go see it again. Too much good dialog to absorb in one sitting.

  8. Ha! This from a review at Amazon.com for the book:

    Most people have no conception of what is meant by the term "Fascism." They equate the idea with Hitler, although it was coined by Mussolini, and Hitler means Nazis, Anti-Semitism and Concentration Camps. Of course, Moore knows better. Fascism is based on the "struggle" for "order" wherein the ends justify all sorts of means. This dynamic clearly runs counter to the democratic ideals of "liberty" and "property." Historically, then, we are confronted with the monumental irony that although the Fascists lost World War II, the Cold War was on one level the triumph of Fascism, a period where we allowed all sorts of travesties, from the McCarthy witch hunts to Nixon's executive orders in the name of "national security." Moore brings the idea of fascism home. If you cannot recognize it in England's green and pleasant fields then you are never going to recognize it when it walks down Main Street in your hometown, U.S.A. Don't you think you should?

    Heh, you can say that again, although the "democratic ideal" bit nonsensical rubbish. Liberty and property have nothing to do with–are the entithesis of–democracy.

  9. I have heard that the movie is really good, but books are almost always better. :)

  10. I just saw the movie yesterday, Its really nice, its a smarter-than-average, visually impressive, action thriller.

  11. The movie is very good. Portman is at her best and the story is such a scathing attack of Bush's tactics that it feels so good.

  12. "…the story is such a scathing attack of Bush's tactics that it feels so good"

    Well, if that's what you got out of it, then you're not going beyond a few convenient parallels to the much, much broader context at work here, which is the invalidity of government per se.

  13. moghdor says:

    Based on the reports I've heard of this movie, it's a travesty. Worthy of eye gouging.

  14. I'm always a book is better than the movie type of person…I'll have to see if this principle holds true for this book/movie as well. The trailer looks good.

  15. I went to see this movie on Saturday and knew virtually nothing about it prior to walking in. (I saw the trailers but didn't have any history etc)

    It was fantastic. It kept my attention the whole time and left me feeling very happy that I saw it…something many movies these days tend not to do.

  16. Disowned? No surprise there. I think it is every author's right of passage to dosown a produced work. Heck, even Winston Groom dissed Forest Gump (the movie) in his follow up book, Gump and Co.

    First paragraph of the book says, "Let me say this: Everybody makes mistakes,… But take my word for it – don't never let nobody make a movie of your life's story."

    He later pokes fun at Tom Hanks, too. Great read.

  17. Oldest cliché in the, ehh-hemm, book that the movie is not like the book or is not as good. Stephen King apparantly didn't like Kubrik's version of his book "The Shining". However, sorry, Steve, it's a great movie.

  18. wow, seems like there's mixed feelings about this movie. I've been wanting to see it, though.

  19. Just got back….

    HOLY SHIT!

  20. I saw it last night and loved it. I think that the author disowned it simply so that he's not tied up in the Bush bashing that's underneath the surface in the movie – as it wasn't written as bush bashing.

  21. What is WITH you people? This is an incredible film! How often do you get a film that doesn't treat ideals with a snigger or a Hallmark'y dollip of syrup? The pacing, the characters, the building tension – it's an exhilerating experience. Like no other film I've seen in many years. I was not impressed with The Matrix, and even less with the sequels. But the Wachowski's have gotten my respect with this screenplay. The 1812 Overature has never had a better visual accompaniment.
    But is it a commentary on today that I did saw so few in the audience roused with enthusiasm like I was? If this film had come out in the late '60's, would it get a different response? Or perhaps it just needs to find it's audience. Maybe too many adolescents looking for another "X Man" and too few seekers of heroism and idealism. It's sure not being marketed properly.

  22. oscilo says:

    would someone by so kind and help me find the complete dialog of V for Vendetta, I would enjoy to know that someone else feels deep this dialog to.