Comments on: Saturated Fat Epidemiology for Math Geeks http://freetheanimal.com/2009/03/saturated-fat-epidemiology-for-math-geeks.html Expressing Our Primal Genes for Lean Health, Vitality and Attractiveness Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:02:16 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Eric http://freetheanimal.com/2009/03/saturated-fat-epidemiology-for-math-geeks.html#comment-12447 Eric Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:32:53 +0000 http://localhost/animal/2009/03/saturated-fat-epidemiology-for-math-geeks.html#comment-12447 Unfortunately learning these things outside of mainstream ignorance usually is only for smart or desperate people. And anyone who started by learning what the health authorities say may never bother to look further to see the light. Maybe it's good I have a weight problem as was forced to "jump over the fence" to discover I was in the nutritional dark ages when I got over. Unfortunately learning these things outside of mainstream ignorance usually is only for smart or desperate people. And anyone who started by learning what the health authorities say may never bother to look further to see the light. Maybe it’s good I have a weight problem as was forced to “jump over the fence” to discover I was in the nutritional dark ages when I got over.

]]> By: Richard Nikoley http://freetheanimal.com/2009/03/saturated-fat-epidemiology-for-math-geeks.html#comment-1466 Richard Nikoley Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:57:22 +0000 http://localhost/animal/2009/03/saturated-fat-epidemiology-for-math-geeks.html#comment-1466 <p><br /> Thank you, Mark. There are plenty of people doing high quality "10 Things to X" sorts of posts, and that's just not me. There's plenty of room, I guess, for my style.</p> <p>Yea, I don't want people reading too much into that. Mainly, I look upon it as pretty solid falsification of the fat/cholesterol -> heart disease hypothesis. What I think is that you can have a low or high sat fat intake and be just fine so long as you stay away from frankenfoods.</p> <p>Congrats on the success. It's so easy, it's like...natural or something.</p> Thank you, Mark. There are plenty of people doing high quality "10 Things to X" sorts of posts, and that's just not me. There's plenty of room, I guess, for my style.

Yea, I don't want people reading too much into that. Mainly, I look upon it as pretty solid falsification of the fat/cholesterol -> heart disease hypothesis. What I think is that you can have a low or high sat fat intake and be just fine so long as you stay away from frankenfoods.

Congrats on the success. It's so easy, it's like…natural or something.

]]> By: Dave in Ohio http://freetheanimal.com/2009/03/saturated-fat-epidemiology-for-math-geeks.html#comment-1465 Dave in Ohio Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:08:21 +0000 http://localhost/animal/2009/03/saturated-fat-epidemiology-for-math-geeks.html#comment-1465 <p>Correction: The 1953 charts used total fat while these use SF, so the 1998 percentages are not much different. </p> Correction: The 1953 charts used total fat while these use SF, so the 1998 percentages are not much different.

]]> By: marc.Senneret@free.fr http://freetheanimal.com/2009/03/saturated-fat-epidemiology-for-math-geeks.html#comment-1464 marc.Senneret@free.fr Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:59:06 +0000 http://localhost/animal/2009/03/saturated-fat-epidemiology-for-math-geeks.html#comment-1464 <p>I would like to thank you for the high quality of your blog. I have been reading it with others for 2 months, and i turned "paleo" and lost so much fat without pain, it isn't even funny! But stop about me (it is just to tell you to keep on the good work). </p> <p>Thanks for the links to the database.</p> <p>by the way, I 've plotted/calculated (matlab user too) occurence of cardiovascular diseases against fat from animals in Kcal/day instead of %, and it shows approximately the same trend: negative correlation (corre=-0.3380, 95% -> [-0.1962,-0.466] )<br /> Moreover, occurence of cardiovascular diseases against wheat in Kcal/day seems to show a tiny positive correlation (corre=0.2323, 95% -> [0.0833,0.3710])...</p> <p>But the data are so scattered that all of this has to be taken lightly.</p> <p>I like to plot against "quantity" instead of % to minimize correlation problem with total kcal intakes.</p> I would like to thank you for the high quality of your blog. I have been reading it with others for 2 months, and i turned "paleo" and lost so much fat without pain, it isn't even funny! But stop about me (it is just to tell you to keep on the good work).

Thanks for the links to the database.

by the way, I 've plotted/calculated (matlab user too) occurence of cardiovascular diseases against fat from animals in Kcal/day instead of %, and it shows approximately the same trend: negative correlation (corre=-0.3380, 95% -> [-0.1962,-0.466] )
Moreover, occurence of cardiovascular diseases against wheat in Kcal/day seems to show a tiny positive correlation (corre=0.2323, 95% -> [0.0833,0.3710])…

But the data are so scattered that all of this has to be taken lightly.

I like to plot against "quantity" instead of % to minimize correlation problem with total kcal intakes.

]]> By: Richard Nikoley http://freetheanimal.com/2009/03/saturated-fat-epidemiology-for-math-geeks.html#comment-1463 Richard Nikoley Tue, 31 Mar 2009 07:10:27 +0000 http://localhost/animal/2009/03/saturated-fat-epidemiology-for-math-geeks.html#comment-1463 <p><br /> Off the scale: 222 x 33</p> Off the scale: 222 x 33

]]> By: Dr Dan http://freetheanimal.com/2009/03/saturated-fat-epidemiology-for-math-geeks.html#comment-1462 Dr Dan Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:12:23 +0000 http://localhost/animal/2009/03/saturated-fat-epidemiology-for-math-geeks.html#comment-1462 <p>GREAT POST!!!!!!</p> GREAT POST!!!!!!

]]> By: Dave in Ohio http://freetheanimal.com/2009/03/saturated-fat-epidemiology-for-math-geeks.html#comment-1461 Dave in Ohio Tue, 31 Mar 2009 02:14:59 +0000 http://localhost/animal/2009/03/saturated-fat-epidemiology-for-math-geeks.html#comment-1461 <p>Hyperlipid recently posted some graphs of Keys' original data. Note the much higher percentage of Saturated fats in 1953. </p> <p><a href="http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/2009/02/cholesterol-presentation-between.html" rel="nofollow">http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/2009/02/cholesterol-presentation-between.html</a></p> <p>The percentages of SF for 1996 seem very low by comparison. And the death rate is also lower, most likely due to much improved cardiac interventional procedures, rather than the lower percentage of saturated fat.</p> Hyperlipid recently posted some graphs of Keys' original data. Note the much higher percentage of Saturated fats in 1953.

http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/2009/02/cholesterol-presentation-between.html

The percentages of SF for 1996 seem very low by comparison. And the death rate is also lower, most likely due to much improved cardiac interventional procedures, rather than the lower percentage of saturated fat.

]]> By: Juha S said... http://freetheanimal.com/2009/03/saturated-fat-epidemiology-for-math-geeks.html#comment-1460 Juha S said... Tue, 31 Mar 2009 01:29:14 +0000 http://localhost/animal/2009/03/saturated-fat-epidemiology-for-math-geeks.html#comment-1460 <p>If this curve would be true by eating more than 30,5 % calories from saturated fat your CHD risk would be less than 0. ;-)</p> If this curve would be true by eating more than 30,5 % calories from saturated fat your CHD risk would be less than 0. ;-)

]]> By: sam http://freetheanimal.com/2009/03/saturated-fat-epidemiology-for-math-geeks.html#comment-1459 sam Tue, 31 Mar 2009 01:24:20 +0000 http://localhost/animal/2009/03/saturated-fat-epidemiology-for-math-geeks.html#comment-1459 <p>ok</p> ok

]]> By: Patrik http://freetheanimal.com/2009/03/saturated-fat-epidemiology-for-math-geeks.html#comment-1458 Patrik Mon, 30 Mar 2009 22:20:37 +0000 http://localhost/animal/2009/03/saturated-fat-epidemiology-for-math-geeks.html#comment-1458 <p>BTW where is Germany in the graph?</p> BTW where is Germany in the graph?

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