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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
		<link>http://freetheanimal.com/2009/08/the-vegetarian-myth.html#comment-16340</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t take any grains to feed animals that do not live in concrete factories.  It takes a fence and plenty of green grass.  Ruminants mow and fertilize the grass, what they are meant to eat.  No GMO corn, no petroleum transport, no manure as waste in a lagoon.  Manure is a valuable fertilizer, when cows live on grass.  Grain feeding of ruminant animal causes excess methane production, not a problem with grass fed.  

We do not need to convine everyone to be meatless to help the environment and the food system.  We need to go back to traditional methods that farms used to use before chemicals and factories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t take any grains to feed animals that do not live in concrete factories.  It takes a fence and plenty of green grass.  Ruminants mow and fertilize the grass, what they are meant to eat.  No GMO corn, no petroleum transport, no manure as waste in a lagoon.  Manure is a valuable fertilizer, when cows live on grass.  Grain feeding of ruminant animal causes excess methane production, not a problem with grass fed.  </p>
<p>We do not need to convine everyone to be meatless to help the environment and the food system.  We need to go back to traditional methods that farms used to use before chemicals and factories.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://freetheanimal.com/2009/08/the-vegetarian-myth.html#comment-16218</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://realfoodblog.com/uncategorized/author-of-the-vegetarian-myth-attacked-by-militant-vegans/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Author Of The Vegetarian Myth Attacked By Militant Vegans&lt;/a&gt;

March 13th, while speaking in the auditorium at the 15th Annual Bay Area Anarchist Bookfair, Lierre Kieth was assaulted by pie throwing goons. The 3 pies were laced with hot pepper and therefor had an effect similar to pepper spray, blinding the author for a time. The painful attack was was carried out by three masked, militant vegans unhappy with the substance of the authors new book, The Vegetarian Myth.</description>
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<p>March 13th, while speaking in the auditorium at the 15th Annual Bay Area Anarchist Bookfair, Lierre Kieth was assaulted by pie throwing goons. The 3 pies were laced with hot pepper and therefor had an effect similar to pepper spray, blinding the author for a time. The painful attack was was carried out by three masked, militant vegans unhappy with the substance of the authors new book, The Vegetarian Myth.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Nikoley</title>
		<link>http://freetheanimal.com/2009/08/the-vegetarian-myth.html#comment-13256</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Nikoley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I&#039;m a materialist save for my belief in free will, so I don&#039;t really go in for any of that Karma stuff. On the other hand, man is an animal that seeks values and seeking rational and wholesome values has its rewards even spiritual or soulful ones -- so there&#039;s that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I&#8217;m a materialist save for my belief in free will, so I don&#8217;t really go in for any of that Karma stuff. On the other hand, man is an animal that seeks values and seeking rational and wholesome values has its rewards even spiritual or soulful ones &#8212; so there&#8217;s that.</p>
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		<title>By: ian</title>
		<link>http://freetheanimal.com/2009/08/the-vegetarian-myth.html#comment-13232</link>
		<dc:creator>ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 02:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my brother is a vegetarian, he trains like a beast, is 6&#039;2&#039; 180lbs and shredded, but he is 25 and does take some suppliments-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my brother is a vegetarian, he trains like a beast, is 6&#8242;2&#8242; 180lbs and shredded, but he is 25 and does take some suppliments-</p>
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		<title>By: ian</title>
		<link>http://freetheanimal.com/2009/08/the-vegetarian-myth.html#comment-13230</link>
		<dc:creator>ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 02:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have one for you richard, you make sense, but in these response you mention human existance, and to me it sound like you are talking about what is good for our species on a physical level, what about spiritual, and karma, dont we create a larger karmic imprint, by eating animals instead of vegetables,  vegetables, just curious as to your thoughts, im still undecided one way or the other, 
thanks
ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have one for you richard, you make sense, but in these response you mention human existance, and to me it sound like you are talking about what is good for our species on a physical level, what about spiritual, and karma, dont we create a larger karmic imprint, by eating animals instead of vegetables,  vegetables, just curious as to your thoughts, im still undecided one way or the other,<br />
thanks<br />
ian</p>
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		<title>By: Stuff That I Read (or Watch), And You Should Too &#124; Mark&#39;s Daily Apple</title>
		<link>http://freetheanimal.com/2009/08/the-vegetarian-myth.html#comment-12714</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuff That I Read (or Watch), And You Should Too &#124; Mark&#39;s Daily Apple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Vegetarian Myth – Eades reviewed it, Richard reviewed it, and I did, too. This should be read by anyone, not just prospective or current vegetarians. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: NYC Endurance &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Stuff That Mark Reads (or Watches), And You Should Too</title>
		<link>http://freetheanimal.com/2009/08/the-vegetarian-myth.html#comment-12230</link>
		<dc:creator>NYC Endurance &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Stuff That Mark Reads (or Watches), And You Should Too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 15:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Vegetarian Myth – Eades reviewed it, Richard reviewed it, and I did, too. This should be read by anyone, not just prospective or current vegetarians. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Vegetarian Myth – Eades reviewed it, Richard reviewed it, and I did, too. This should be read by anyone, not just prospective or current vegetarians. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: CrossFit Peachtree &#124; CrossFit in Buckhead &#124; CrossFit in Atlanta &#124; CrossFit in Midtown &#124; Personal Training Atlanta &#124; Atlanta Strength and Conditioning Coach &#124; CrossFit Football in Atlanta &#124; Atlanta Speed and Agility Training</title>
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		<description>[...] Vegetarian Myth – Eades reviewed it, Richard reviewed it, and I did, too. This should be read by anyone, not just prospective or current vegetarians. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Richard Nikoley</title>
		<link>http://freetheanimal.com/2009/08/the-vegetarian-myth.html#comment-12096</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Nikoley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 18:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey man, you clearly get it. You echo very much of what Lierre Keith writes in her book, The Vegetarian Myth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey man, you clearly get it. You echo very much of what Lierre Keith writes in her book, The Vegetarian Myth.</p>
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		<title>By: AngryHippy</title>
		<link>http://freetheanimal.com/2009/08/the-vegetarian-myth.html#comment-12079</link>
		<dc:creator>AngryHippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 09:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, you actually sound sane at least.  I do agree with vegans that many modern &quot;animal factories&quot; are abhorant.  I don&#039;t like seeing animals (and in many cases the human employees) tortured for some extra profit.  I think they should be raised and killed as humanely as possible.    However, many vegans seem like extreme religious fundamentalists with pure emotion and idealism motivating them, and no rational thought.  

Morally, vegans have a point, but they seem to feel that relative intelligence is the only thing that gives living things value.   The more radical vegans don&#039;t seem to understand the ecosystems, or balance of nature at all.  
For one thing plants struggle just as hard to survive as animals, they are complex living things, and I find it hard to say they deserve death any more than animals.  The fact is most animals have to kill something to survive.  Unless you can survive entirely off of nectar or fruit, manure, dirt or sunlight, you have to kill something to eat.  

For another thing growing plants can be destructive to the environment too, mono crops with lots of pesticides and chemical fertalizer are very destructive to the environment.  There are plenty of methods of growing food that may be less productive in the short term, but in the long term are far more sustainable.  Every ecosystem is different.  Sometimes grazing animals actually benefit the environment, American buffalo for example lived in harmony with their environment for millions of years, and humans and other predators ate the buffalo.  Problems are only caused when you introduce alien species that aren&#039;t well adapted to the local ecosystem.  

Vegans seem to make outrageous health claims too.  A lot of my friends are vegan or vegetarian, (and most of them aren&#039;t pushy and preachy I might add).  However they don&#039;t seem any healthier then me.  I&#039;ve known some very preachy vegans though, who seem to get sick with a cold or flu every 2 or 3 months, while they constantly told me how &quot;healthy&quot; their diet was.   I usually only get sick once a year despite too much sugar, meat and smoking.  It kind of makes my wonder about the their &quot;healthy&quot; diet.  If I search online, I find tons of articles both pro-vegan and pro-omnivore, but not much data comparing the life spans of the two groups.  Also I&#039;ve read many articles about how bad margarine and many common vegetable oils are for you, (mostly due to how they are processed).  It&#039;s hard to tell who&#039;s accurate, because there is so much bias on both sides.  The general gist I get is that all extreme diets have trade offs, plus different people have different dietary needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, you actually sound sane at least.  I do agree with vegans that many modern &#8220;animal factories&#8221; are abhorant.  I don&#8217;t like seeing animals (and in many cases the human employees) tortured for some extra profit.  I think they should be raised and killed as humanely as possible.    However, many vegans seem like extreme religious fundamentalists with pure emotion and idealism motivating them, and no rational thought.  </p>
<p>Morally, vegans have a point, but they seem to feel that relative intelligence is the only thing that gives living things value.   The more radical vegans don&#8217;t seem to understand the ecosystems, or balance of nature at all.<br />
For one thing plants struggle just as hard to survive as animals, they are complex living things, and I find it hard to say they deserve death any more than animals.  The fact is most animals have to kill something to survive.  Unless you can survive entirely off of nectar or fruit, manure, dirt or sunlight, you have to kill something to eat.  </p>
<p>For another thing growing plants can be destructive to the environment too, mono crops with lots of pesticides and chemical fertalizer are very destructive to the environment.  There are plenty of methods of growing food that may be less productive in the short term, but in the long term are far more sustainable.  Every ecosystem is different.  Sometimes grazing animals actually benefit the environment, American buffalo for example lived in harmony with their environment for millions of years, and humans and other predators ate the buffalo.  Problems are only caused when you introduce alien species that aren&#8217;t well adapted to the local ecosystem.  </p>
<p>Vegans seem to make outrageous health claims too.  A lot of my friends are vegan or vegetarian, (and most of them aren&#8217;t pushy and preachy I might add).  However they don&#8217;t seem any healthier then me.  I&#8217;ve known some very preachy vegans though, who seem to get sick with a cold or flu every 2 or 3 months, while they constantly told me how &#8220;healthy&#8221; their diet was.   I usually only get sick once a year despite too much sugar, meat and smoking.  It kind of makes my wonder about the their &#8220;healthy&#8221; diet.  If I search online, I find tons of articles both pro-vegan and pro-omnivore, but not much data comparing the life spans of the two groups.  Also I&#8217;ve read many articles about how bad margarine and many common vegetable oils are for you, (mostly due to how they are processed).  It&#8217;s hard to tell who&#8217;s accurate, because there is so much bias on both sides.  The general gist I get is that all extreme diets have trade offs, plus different people have different dietary needs.</p>
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