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		<title>By: Intermittent Fasting &#171; At Darwin&#8217;s Table</title>
		<link>http://freetheanimal.com/2009/11/alternate-day-fasting-weight-loss-and-food.html#comment-13426</link>
		<dc:creator>Intermittent Fasting &#171; At Darwin&#8217;s Table</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Richard Nikoley</title>
		<link>http://freetheanimal.com/2009/11/alternate-day-fasting-weight-loss-and-food.html#comment-10654</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Nikoley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, it&#039;s varied. Some fasts are easy as can be, others tough.

It&#039;s important to remember that we&#039;re not necessarily adapted to fasting. Fasting is simply a means of modeling our natural state where we weren&#039;t always successful in getting food. The idea is that the body uses that state to repair and use up broken down protein waste, which I deem beneficial as an acute stressor.

I find that fasts are easiest if I eat my last meal as a late lunch, say 2pm-ish. That way, I only have a few hours of potential gnawing hunger before, and it&#039;s pretty easy to get to bedtime. Then, I find sleep really kills the fast and by the time I get hungry again it&#039;s only a few hours of holding out.

But, that&#039;s just me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, it&#8217;s varied. Some fasts are easy as can be, others tough.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s important to remember that we&#8217;re not necessarily adapted to fasting. Fasting is simply a means of modeling our natural state where we weren&#8217;t always successful in getting food. The idea is that the body uses that state to repair and use up broken down protein waste, which I deem beneficial as an acute stressor.</p>
<p>I find that fasts are easiest if I eat my last meal as a late lunch, say 2pm-ish. That way, I only have a few hours of potential gnawing hunger before, and it&#8217;s pretty easy to get to bedtime. Then, I find sleep really kills the fast and by the time I get hungry again it&#8217;s only a few hours of holding out.</p>
<p>But, that&#8217;s just me.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does one resist cravings when fasting? If I don&#039;t eat all morning, I&#039;m hungry as anything by the time lunch comes round, and being a city dweller I&#039;m surrounded by carb-laden (yet delicious) food temptation.

Am I just being weak willed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does one resist cravings when fasting? If I don&#8217;t eat all morning, I&#8217;m hungry as anything by the time lunch comes round, and being a city dweller I&#8217;m surrounded by carb-laden (yet delicious) food temptation.</p>
<p>Am I just being weak willed?</p>
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		<title>By: ThePaleoGarden</title>
		<link>http://freetheanimal.com/2009/11/alternate-day-fasting-weight-loss-and-food.html#comment-10652</link>
		<dc:creator>ThePaleoGarden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard, indeed.  Your writings on emphasizing the success you have had with workouts and fasting really have really sunk home with me.  I skip on the chance to do a workout now if I don&#039;t have at least 4-5 hours of fasting (preferably a minimum of 8-10).

Will, my point about insulin resistance from constant eating was primarily toward those on a non-paleo diet.  I think constant eating on a paleo diet will cause less damage because there will be lower average insulin levels, but giving your pancreas and receptors a break is a favorable thing to do regardless of how you&#039;re eating.  Also, regarding Richard&#039;s points of IF and strength gains if you&#039;re constantly eating before and after workouts, you&#039;ll receive less benefit, less adaptation, less gene expression.  Many good points are made in this regard by Dr. McGuff, DeVany, and Richard has really good posts on this subject, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard, indeed.  Your writings on emphasizing the success you have had with workouts and fasting really have really sunk home with me.  I skip on the chance to do a workout now if I don&#8217;t have at least 4-5 hours of fasting (preferably a minimum of 8-10).</p>
<p>Will, my point about insulin resistance from constant eating was primarily toward those on a non-paleo diet.  I think constant eating on a paleo diet will cause less damage because there will be lower average insulin levels, but giving your pancreas and receptors a break is a favorable thing to do regardless of how you&#8217;re eating.  Also, regarding Richard&#8217;s points of IF and strength gains if you&#8217;re constantly eating before and after workouts, you&#8217;ll receive less benefit, less adaptation, less gene expression.  Many good points are made in this regard by Dr. McGuff, DeVany, and Richard has really good posts on this subject, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Low-Carber</title>
		<link>http://freetheanimal.com/2009/11/alternate-day-fasting-weight-loss-and-food.html#comment-10650</link>
		<dc:creator>Low-Carber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard: I see what you mean.  And indeed, weighing the food is like a dictatorship. I think that we must eat until we feel satisfied.  But it does help a bit to weigh the food by portions.  What i do is that i plan to eat about 12 ounces of meat, chicken or turkey every day. And if i feel hungrier i eat a couple of pieces of extra chicken or if i feel less hungry i eat less than that.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard: I see what you mean.  And indeed, weighing the food is like a dictatorship. I think that we must eat until we feel satisfied.  But it does help a bit to weigh the food by portions.  What i do is that i plan to eat about 12 ounces of meat, chicken or turkey every day. And if i feel hungrier i eat a couple of pieces of extra chicken or if i feel less hungry i eat less than that.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Nikoley</title>
		<link>http://freetheanimal.com/2009/11/alternate-day-fasting-weight-loss-and-food.html#comment-10646</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Nikoley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t often eat chicken. I never weigh anything, so I would never know how many ounces of anything I&#039;m eating. Never weight, never count.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t often eat chicken. I never weigh anything, so I would never know how many ounces of anything I&#8217;m eating. Never weight, never count.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Will</title>
		<link>http://freetheanimal.com/2009/11/alternate-day-fasting-weight-loss-and-food.html#comment-10644</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the article, it&#039;s definitely an interesting read! My only caveat is that the article seems to operate under the assumption that insulin receptors are being overstimulated, eventually causing insulin resistance. Wouldn&#039;t eating the standard paleo diet alleviate this? I&#039;m watching the Iowa/Ohio State game right now, so I may have missed something in the article, but from everything I&#039;ve learned previously, I wouldn&#039;t think insulin overstimulation would be a problem when on a low carb diet, regardless of eating frequency. I do, however, see the logic behind downregulation of the receptors due to constant stimulation, though.

As for the issue of eating before a workout, I&#039;ve established pretty well what works for me there. I just can&#039;t throw around the same weights without food in my stomach, especially on days where I&#039;m doing squats or deadlift. I think that this is something that everyone has to experiment with, though, because as you&#039;ve pointed out, I know a lot of people who operate better during a workout without any food beforehand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the article, it&#8217;s definitely an interesting read! My only caveat is that the article seems to operate under the assumption that insulin receptors are being overstimulated, eventually causing insulin resistance. Wouldn&#8217;t eating the standard paleo diet alleviate this? I&#8217;m watching the Iowa/Ohio State game right now, so I may have missed something in the article, but from everything I&#8217;ve learned previously, I wouldn&#8217;t think insulin overstimulation would be a problem when on a low carb diet, regardless of eating frequency. I do, however, see the logic behind downregulation of the receptors due to constant stimulation, though.</p>
<p>As for the issue of eating before a workout, I&#8217;ve established pretty well what works for me there. I just can&#8217;t throw around the same weights without food in my stomach, especially on days where I&#8217;m doing squats or deadlift. I think that this is something that everyone has to experiment with, though, because as you&#8217;ve pointed out, I know a lot of people who operate better during a workout without any food beforehand.</p>
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		<title>By: Low-Carber</title>
		<link>http://freetheanimal.com/2009/11/alternate-day-fasting-weight-loss-and-food.html#comment-10643</link>
		<dc:creator>Low-Carber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello, i have a question about the amount of chicken you eat for lunch. How many ounces of chicken you have in a meal? Because today my lunch was just barbequed chicken, and i had about 14 to 15 ounces of cooked chicken. I weigh the meat i eat, and i think that i eat like around 13 to 16 ounces of chicken a day for lunch.

Before, when i used to eat green vegetables i used to eat 9 ounces of chicken along with some vegetables. But lately i have been eating chicken alone for lunch without any carbohydrates. So i had to increase the amount of chicken i eat.

Oh, another thing i wanted to comment is that Whey Protein Powder has some carbs. The Body Fortress Whey Protein Powder i use has about 5 grams of carbs per scoop, that&#039;s why i quit eating vegetables so i could stay around 10 to 20 grams a day from whey protein i use. 

Oh by the way that chicken looked pretty good ;-)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello, i have a question about the amount of chicken you eat for lunch. How many ounces of chicken you have in a meal? Because today my lunch was just barbequed chicken, and i had about 14 to 15 ounces of cooked chicken. I weigh the meat i eat, and i think that i eat like around 13 to 16 ounces of chicken a day for lunch.</p>
<p>Before, when i used to eat green vegetables i used to eat 9 ounces of chicken along with some vegetables. But lately i have been eating chicken alone for lunch without any carbohydrates. So i had to increase the amount of chicken i eat.</p>
<p>Oh, another thing i wanted to comment is that Whey Protein Powder has some carbs. The Body Fortress Whey Protein Powder i use has about 5 grams of carbs per scoop, that&#8217;s why i quit eating vegetables so i could stay around 10 to 20 grams a day from whey protein i use. </p>
<p>Oh by the way that chicken looked pretty good <img src='http://freetheanimal.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Richard Nikoley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Nikoley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that. Really good post of yours. Just my personal experience, but most of my workouts (2 per week, 30 minutes, highly intense) are in a fasted state anywhere from 12-30 hours, and I never eat until at least 2 hours after, but often six.

Been doing that for nearly two years and in that time have made gains of 200-300% in most routines and in some cases four times and more the amount of weight. I can vary intensity to bring on hunger or back off and kill it, at will.

IF combined with paleo combined with intense workouts fasted gives you high resolution into hunger. Ultimately, it becomes your friend, not your dreaded enemy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that. Really good post of yours. Just my personal experience, but most of my workouts (2 per week, 30 minutes, highly intense) are in a fasted state anywhere from 12-30 hours, and I never eat until at least 2 hours after, but often six.</p>
<p>Been doing that for nearly two years and in that time have made gains of 200-300% in most routines and in some cases four times and more the amount of weight. I can vary intensity to bring on hunger or back off and kill it, at will.</p>
<p>IF combined with paleo combined with intense workouts fasted gives you high resolution into hunger. Ultimately, it becomes your friend, not your dreaded enemy.</p>
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		<title>By: ThePaleoGarden</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThePaleoGarden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard (and Will),
To add to your comments about why fasting is not a bad thing, and why someone who is a bodybuilder who has never been exposed to why chronic anabolism will in the end lead to insulin resistance which causes in the end chronic catabolism.... I offer to the discussion from a blog post that buffeted something that Brent over at “healthcare epistemocrat“ wrote. it resulted in a decent exchange about clarifying for a non-paleo bodybuilder the difference between chronic and acute catabolism and the dangers of chronic anabolism so harmfully sought by many bodybuilders (and many inactive people on the standard American diet, as well).

http://www.thepaleogarden.com/2009/11/13/vocab-lesson-catabolic-state/

Will, basically: 
-constant anabolic state will lead to a constant catabolic state (brought on by insulin resistance)
-Why? because your insulin will always be high because you&#039;re eating all of the time
-When you lose your insulin sensitivity you will at the cellular level be in a catabolic state.  Diab0etics&#039; have their muscle mass waste away.  Many bodybuilders who believe in chronic anabolism become diabetic.
-Will, you are confusing the brief catabolic state (from a brief fast) with a prolonged catabolic state (e.g., starving)

Again, the ironic thing, in a bodybuilder&#039;s quest for constant anabolism, in the end a hormonal reckoning will cause catabolism brought on by insulin resistance, diabetes, and perhaps even metabolic syndrome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard (and Will),<br />
To add to your comments about why fasting is not a bad thing, and why someone who is a bodybuilder who has never been exposed to why chronic anabolism will in the end lead to insulin resistance which causes in the end chronic catabolism&#8230;. I offer to the discussion from a blog post that buffeted something that Brent over at “healthcare epistemocrat“ wrote. it resulted in a decent exchange about clarifying for a non-paleo bodybuilder the difference between chronic and acute catabolism and the dangers of chronic anabolism so harmfully sought by many bodybuilders (and many inactive people on the standard American diet, as well).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thepaleogarden.com/2009/11/13/vocab-lesson-catabolic-state/" rel="nofollow">http://www.thepaleogarden.com/2009/11/13/vocab-lesson-catabolic-state/</a></p>
<p>Will, basically:<br />
-constant anabolic state will lead to a constant catabolic state (brought on by insulin resistance)<br />
-Why? because your insulin will always be high because you&#8217;re eating all of the time<br />
-When you lose your insulin sensitivity you will at the cellular level be in a catabolic state.  Diab0etics&#8217; have their muscle mass waste away.  Many bodybuilders who believe in chronic anabolism become diabetic.<br />
-Will, you are confusing the brief catabolic state (from a brief fast) with a prolonged catabolic state (e.g., starving)</p>
<p>Again, the ironic thing, in a bodybuilder&#8217;s quest for constant anabolism, in the end a hormonal reckoning will cause catabolism brought on by insulin resistance, diabetes, and perhaps even metabolic syndrome.</p>
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