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	<title>Comments on: Saturated Fat and Coronary Heart Disease, Part II: The Paleo Principle</title>
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		<title>By: Richard Nikoley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Nikoley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 16:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sylvie:

Hope you see this but do you have a source. All I could find is that it&#039;s about 40% saturated

http://www.springerlink.com/content/p01g743kp80r1u3r/

Not like that harms the point, but I just want to be correct before putting things out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sylvie:</p>
<p>Hope you see this but do you have a source. All I could find is that it&#8217;s about 40% saturated</p>
<p><a href="http://www.springerlink.com/content/p01g743kp80r1u3r/" rel="nofollow">http://www.springerlink.com/content/p01g743kp80r1u3r/</a></p>
<p>Not like that harms the point, but I just want to be correct before putting things out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Saturated Fat and Coronary Heart Disease, Part III: Cognitive Dissonance &#124; Free The Animal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saturated Fat and Coronary Heart Disease, Part III: Cognitive Dissonance &#124; Free The Animal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Part II of this series I wrote that this installment would be about the &quot;best research&quot; those [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Zepto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zepto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Cpen29

I would think that the health of people in India, (if they indeed are vegetarians) have more to do with the things they aren&#039;t consuming, rather then the things they are consuming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Cpen29</p>
<p>I would think that the health of people in India, (if they indeed are vegetarians) have more to do with the things they aren&#8217;t consuming, rather then the things they are consuming.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Nikoley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Nikoley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, I truly don&#039;t know, Anand. I just put that up there because it&#039;s an argument to be considered (if you checked that link to the cooking controversy).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, I truly don&#8217;t know, Anand. I just put that up there because it&#8217;s an argument to be considered (if you checked that link to the cooking controversy).</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Nikoley</title>
		<link>http://freetheanimal.com/2009/11/saturated-fat-and-coronary-heart-disease-part-ii-the-paleo-principle.html#comment-10998</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Nikoley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Kurt.

Peter, you may also be unaware that Cordain is backpedaling on sat fat. See the 4th item here:

http://freetheanimal.com/2009/10/more-links-quick-hits.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Kurt.</p>
<p>Peter, you may also be unaware that Cordain is backpedaling on sat fat. See the 4th item here:</p>
<p><a href="http://freetheanimal.com/2009/10/more-links-quick-hits.html" rel="nofollow">http://freetheanimal.com/2009/10/more-links-quick-hits.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kurt G Harris MD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt G Harris MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Peter

Flax oil??

Are you serious? Flax oil is linseed oil - mechanically extracted from flaxseed and used in paints and varnishes. Even if  you do eat it, the efficiency of conversion of the ALA to the n-3 s we need in our cell membranes is so low you&#039;d have to drink a pint of it.

Just avoid eating processed vegetable oils and little if any supplementation should be required.

What the hell is paleolithic about eating linseed oil better suited to furniture refininishing?

&quot;The paleo diet&quot; is a book of confirmation bias. If you read GCBC first like I did, you will see what I mean. It was decided a priori that saturated fat and salt are bad, end then these premises were used to filter a &quot;paleolithic principle&quot; to get a politicially correct diet book that would not irritate cardiologists.

How does Cordain know that paleolithic men were careful to eat equal parts of the carcass by volume to purposefully &quot;avoid&quot; excess sat fats from the tastier parts that had more fat? That is pure speculation and defies both logic and evidence from modern age HGs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Peter</p>
<p>Flax oil??</p>
<p>Are you serious? Flax oil is linseed oil &#8211; mechanically extracted from flaxseed and used in paints and varnishes. Even if  you do eat it, the efficiency of conversion of the ALA to the n-3 s we need in our cell membranes is so low you&#8217;d have to drink a pint of it.</p>
<p>Just avoid eating processed vegetable oils and little if any supplementation should be required.</p>
<p>What the hell is paleolithic about eating linseed oil better suited to furniture refininishing?</p>
<p>&#8220;The paleo diet&#8221; is a book of confirmation bias. If you read GCBC first like I did, you will see what I mean. It was decided a priori that saturated fat and salt are bad, end then these premises were used to filter a &#8220;paleolithic principle&#8221; to get a politicially correct diet book that would not irritate cardiologists.</p>
<p>How does Cordain know that paleolithic men were careful to eat equal parts of the carcass by volume to purposefully &#8220;avoid&#8221; excess sat fats from the tastier parts that had more fat? That is pure speculation and defies both logic and evidence from modern age HGs.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree generally with the article I am surprised that the issue has not been raised of the ratio of saturated to unsaturated fat in the diet.  This is covered well by Loren Cordain in The Paleo Diet.  Our ancestors ate not just the meat but the whole animal - and organ meats and bone marrow are much higher in unsaturated fat than the muscle meat we all eat now.  This is exacerbated by the fact that feed-lot raised animals have a much higher % of saturated fat in the their muscle meat as well as much more fat overall than the lean and mean pasture fed animals our ancestors ate.  All of the above also apparently applies to the balance of omega-3 to omega-6 fatty acids.  The answer therefore ,according to Cordain, is to eat lean, pasture-fed meat and organ meats, as well as a lot of fish.  Most of us need to also take fish oil and some vegetable-based fats such as olive oil or flax oil to make the food available in our world match the fat profile that our ancestors ate.  This all means that an argument against too much saturated fat can be sustained; not in terms of it being a &#039;poison&#039; (which is ridiculous) but in terms of getting the balance right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree generally with the article I am surprised that the issue has not been raised of the ratio of saturated to unsaturated fat in the diet.  This is covered well by Loren Cordain in The Paleo Diet.  Our ancestors ate not just the meat but the whole animal &#8211; and organ meats and bone marrow are much higher in unsaturated fat than the muscle meat we all eat now.  This is exacerbated by the fact that feed-lot raised animals have a much higher % of saturated fat in the their muscle meat as well as much more fat overall than the lean and mean pasture fed animals our ancestors ate.  All of the above also apparently applies to the balance of omega-3 to omega-6 fatty acids.  The answer therefore ,according to Cordain, is to eat lean, pasture-fed meat and organ meats, as well as a lot of fish.  Most of us need to also take fish oil and some vegetable-based fats such as olive oil or flax oil to make the food available in our world match the fat profile that our ancestors ate.  This all means that an argument against too much saturated fat can be sustained; not in terms of it being a &#8216;poison&#8217; (which is ridiculous) but in terms of getting the balance right.</p>
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		<title>By: Anand Srivastava</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anand Srivastava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure about that. Don was saying that we started to get AMY1 genes only around 200, 000years ago. I would think that that was the time frame around which we got control of fire, ie learnt how to start them.

The Pelvis reduction would have come up because we were getting very good at hunting large animals, and were getting a lot of fat quite easily. We probably did not need the canines because we were softening up the meat by beating it up with tools. We must have become predominately carnivores, and had been getting very little calories from plant matter, this would have resulted in less need for the large gut. Notice that carnivorous animals have very small pelvises. So it need not have anything to do with cooking. 

This does not mean that our brains became as large as they are now at that time. This must have happened when we incorporated starch, which allowed substantially higher glucose, and must have helped the brain to grow.

We might have stopped fearing the fire by 1.8million years, and may have started using it and keeping it alive, whenever we found it, but it would not be a reliable source.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure about that. Don was saying that we started to get AMY1 genes only around 200, 000years ago. I would think that that was the time frame around which we got control of fire, ie learnt how to start them.</p>
<p>The Pelvis reduction would have come up because we were getting very good at hunting large animals, and were getting a lot of fat quite easily. We probably did not need the canines because we were softening up the meat by beating it up with tools. We must have become predominately carnivores, and had been getting very little calories from plant matter, this would have resulted in less need for the large gut. Notice that carnivorous animals have very small pelvises. So it need not have anything to do with cooking. </p>
<p>This does not mean that our brains became as large as they are now at that time. This must have happened when we incorporated starch, which allowed substantially higher glucose, and must have helped the brain to grow.</p>
<p>We might have stopped fearing the fire by 1.8million years, and may have started using it and keeping it alive, whenever we found it, but it would not be a reliable source.</p>
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		<title>By: CPen29</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPen29</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is amazing to me how there isn&#039;t more talk about the state of health in India.  That country is 70% vegetarian with the rest of the population eating very little meat and virtually no beef.  Their trends in cardio vascular disease and diabetes are staggering.  If there are more books, blogs, or articles that study this correlation I would love to hear about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is amazing to me how there isn&#8217;t more talk about the state of health in India.  That country is 70% vegetarian with the rest of the population eating very little meat and virtually no beef.  Their trends in cardio vascular disease and diabetes are staggering.  If there are more books, blogs, or articles that study this correlation I would love to hear about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Rangitsch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Rangitsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just now spending time on a road trip through the high steppes, prairies, foothill forests and mountains from Rapid City, SD to Laramie and Cheyenne, Wyoming.  This is historically deer, elk, antelope and buffalo grazing lands (now more cattle and sheep), for eons.  Humans have been living here from Paleo times, and living well.  Seems the large ungulate populations were once abundant and groups of Indigenous had pretty easy pickings prior to European contact.  

It is pretty clear that these paleo-times humans would have spent a good portion of each year  living on high saturated fat animal sourced foods.  There is just not much else to eat!  Even in the height of summer/fall fruit seasons, there are precious few chokecherries, elderberries, tart little crab apples and such.  A few starchy roots and some edible bulbs.  

I just intuitively think that humankind in these northern climes, had a good life eating from the animal world, and that would mean lots of sat fat, humans were never dumb, they exploited the riches available.  Think about the world around you, where you live now.  What would you be eating on a cold November day in the sage brush covered steppes at 7,500 feet in wind swept Laramie, Wyoming?  Probably some meat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just now spending time on a road trip through the high steppes, prairies, foothill forests and mountains from Rapid City, SD to Laramie and Cheyenne, Wyoming.  This is historically deer, elk, antelope and buffalo grazing lands (now more cattle and sheep), for eons.  Humans have been living here from Paleo times, and living well.  Seems the large ungulate populations were once abundant and groups of Indigenous had pretty easy pickings prior to European contact.  </p>
<p>It is pretty clear that these paleo-times humans would have spent a good portion of each year  living on high saturated fat animal sourced foods.  There is just not much else to eat!  Even in the height of summer/fall fruit seasons, there are precious few chokecherries, elderberries, tart little crab apples and such.  A few starchy roots and some edible bulbs.  </p>
<p>I just intuitively think that humankind in these northern climes, had a good life eating from the animal world, and that would mean lots of sat fat, humans were never dumb, they exploited the riches available.  Think about the world around you, where you live now.  What would you be eating on a cold November day in the sage brush covered steppes at 7,500 feet in wind swept Laramie, Wyoming?  Probably some meat.</p>
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