Well here's the whole thread on his forum -- currently at three pages worth of posts -- about this post of mine and a couple by others (Castle Grok & Don Matesz). And in response to Nige, a valuable comment contributor here and author of his own excellent nutrition blog, pointing out the value of this blog to over 50,000 visitors per month, Lyle McDonald responds:
It only proves that most people are very silly and easily convinced by logical 'sounding' arguments.
So, I guess that's what he thinks of you all. Now go line up and buy his books.
While it's certainly true that the level of visitors here doesn't singularly mean anything in terms of validity, you will note that this isn't a commercial site either (unlike McDonald's). I spend no money on promoting this site -- it is through people telling friends & family that it has grown 500% in the last year or so. And how about the quality of the visitors? You've all seen how many PhDs & MDs comment here. There's at least a dozen combined, and these are people who are involved in diet and nutrition issues and have been for years. Then again, McDonald thinks Gary Taubes is "full of crap;" so whatever, I guess.
I'm doing this because I've taken off 60 pounds nice & slowly, have increased strength dramatically, and it's been not only easy, but very enjoyable. So it's sustainable for me for the first time in years of trying and failing and, I suspect for a great many others. Is it the only thing that will work? No. Will it work for 100% of people? I seriously doubt it, even if they do everything right. It has worked for 100% of my family members of about a half-dozen who've given it a shot with results of 20 pounds to over 40 pounds lost and in the case of my mom, gotten her off insulin for her type 2 diabetes.
Lots more success stories here.
And it's a pretty easy approach for those who just want decent lean health. While I'm sure that McDonald's various approaches work for those who apply them correctly, I've purchased and read one of his books and it's a complicated, disciplined plan to follow. Will it work? I have no doubt that it will for some, perhaps many. But he seems to hold that the only way to recompose one's body is through his methods, and if he doesn't state that explicitly (I don't know), then isn't it implied when so much of what he does is to criticize others? Even approaches that work for lots of people? He must have a shortcut key for this phrase that ones sees over and over, directed at about anything that isn't authored by McDonald.
...it's total garbage and utterly stupid.
Everything, save Lyle's stuff, is "crap." Oh, and you're "very silly" for being "easily convinced" and doing something that works for you, sustainably long term, rather than follow some complex and arduous program from one of his books, excellent and effective as it might be.
The final point I'd make is that Lyle isn't even a reader here and never will be. So what does he know about what I'm really out here advocating? Even one of his trolls that showed up over the last few days was ignorant of just about everything, arguing against things I've never said or suggested -- and he actually came to the blog. Lyle wouldn't stoop so low, because everyone's a moron, except him.
Have you read his "Mean Forum," (Monkey Island) the one you have to register (free) to read? Wanna know what Lyle McDonald really thinks about you and just about everybody else? Be warned, however, if you're offended by vulgar language and dirty pictures.
Now I'll leave you all, so you can rush right out and buy his books.
Later: Oh, I almost forgot. Apparently Weston Price, author of Nutrition and Physical Degeneration, who travelled the world for better than 20 years to study what non-industrial peoples actually ate and to compare them with those who had migrated to civilization, is also full of crap, a moron, or whatever in McDonald's eyes.
Like the paleo guys who like one of the researchers but not the other, becaue the one is anti-saturated fat. Which the cultists know is good in absolute terms. Because a dentist 50 years ago said so.
Did Price ever say that saturated fat is good "in absolute terms?" I wonder what McDonald actually knows about the cultures studied: "Some of the cultures studied include the inhabitants of the Lötschental in Switzerland, the inhabitants of the Isles of Lewis and Harris in the Outer Hebrides of Scotland, the Eskimos of Alaska and Canada, the Native Americans, among the inhabitants of New Caledonia, Fiji, Samoa, the Marquesas Islands, Tahiti, Rarotonga, Nukuʻalofa, Hawaii, the Masai, Kikuyu, Wakamba and Jalou tribes of Kenya, the Muhima of Uganda, the Baitu and Watusi of Rwanda, the Pygmies, and Wanande in the Congo, the Terrakeka, Dinka and Neurs of Sudan, the Aborigines of Australia, the inhabitants of the Torres Strait, the Māori of New Zealand, the Tauhuanocans, Quechua, "Andes Indians", "Sierra Indians" and "Jungle Indians" of Peru."
Did McDonald ever actually read the book or is he nearly completely ignorant about it and the depth of Price's findings? Does he know anything about vitamin K2 Menatetrenone (MK-4) -- "Activator X" -- and its role in malocclusion, dental carries and periodontal disease?
Did McDonald expose his ignorance?