The Mountain Labored & Roared, But Gave Birth to a Mouse

Excuse my pretension in paraphrasing Phaedrus and his Aesop's Fables .

And don’t start like the old writer of epic cycles:
‘Of Priam’s fate I’ll sing, and the greatest of Wars.’
What could he produce to match his opening promise?
Mountains will labour: what’s born? A ridiculous mouse!

I refer, of course, to my "odd behavior."

Richard Nikoley displays more odd behavior

A catalog of drama that is apparently so scary he can’t link to the sources…or maybe he doesn’t want to because it contradicts his summaries. Like he thinks I trashed Paleo Parents because I posted a link to a video they were in that included a debate with Matt Stone, which I published without commentary because it was a live debate.

Well, when you have a project completely separate from what is a value-add blog and always has been (HGL), called "Paleo Drama," with the tagline reading, "Problems with the paleo community: misogyny, quackery, orthorexia, and more," is it not reasonable to assume that whatever is posted there—unless explicitly described and tagged otherwise—falls into that theme?

Easy: Make it explicit and the Lemons to Lemonade Documentary will leave it alone or even perhaps, mention it as a +1 on the balance sheet of major destructiveness.

...So back to the subject, is it not odd, my behavior? Depends on your paradigm, and your own ability to be omnicentric, understanding all different paradigms. I suppose it's odd from the perspective of the ages-old political-esque cleverness of being dishonest: the cherry picking of out-of-context dealies to make a sub-paradigm of cleverness (we all do that in degrees all the time).

...I'm certainly not complaining. I like exercising my ability to see things from different perspectives. It's the epidemic I'm dealing with. Let's put it all out on the table in terms of the practicalities.

  • Life is itself a negotiation on all levels of being
  • When you say "he has nothing to negotiate with," you are negotiating
  • Everyone always has something to negotiate with so long as they can draw breath and act

Let's take Evelyn, having dispensed with Melissa's mouse.

Thoughts?

Really? Where's Evelyn Kocur? That cartoon is, so far as I can tell, a promotion for cals don't count and LC (because such approach actually helps people—including myself to the tune of 60 pounds initially). While I don't know anything about Adam Kosloff, why just "thoughts?"

Are you two concerned about your balance sheet, Evelyn? I'm just getting started. There are literally hundreds more acts of destruction to document, catalog and eventually, cross-reference.

You scoffed at my offer of Détente, as expected, because you and Melissa thought that all I could put up was to do enraged posts with c-words in "alcoholic psychosis." You were negotiating before you even realized it.

Now you get to see how I can operate from any paradigm, any extreme, or even play it right down the middle. I deal in minds. My preference is for passionate minds, love, hate or preferably, both.

This is all going to go one obvious way, and everyone including yourselves knows exactly what and where that is. Go ahead and prove me wrong. Both of you immediately put up a post trashing someone doing generally good, but perhaps not quite to your exacting standards. Ok? It will of course be accounted for on the balance sheet. So let's get to it.

In finality, the first issue of the Documentary is imperfect from my point of view. Because it was the first and had to be explained, my bias is both explicit and shows through implicitly as well. The bias is always there, of course, but my endeavor issue by issue, will be to make it as objective and "financial statement" like as possible, accounting for the banality of it all.

Comments are open, but keep them on point, in context, and on the theme of cool objectivity. All else with be summarily deleted or redacted, as I deem appropriate to the theme and context.

Update: Evelyn, could you please try to make your backtracking and equivocations a bit shorter? At least, a TL;DR version at top or bottom?

Comments

  1. Richard, I respect your accomplishments with your blog, and because of that I wish you wouldn’t do these sort of things.

    I feel that you feed the negativity of some of these websites you mention, simply by attracting attention to them. In my opinion, your objective would be more easily attained simply by adopting the Mark Sisson approach and completely refuse to spar with any non-sense that spawns externally from his/your demesne. (Yes, I used the French there just for you.)

    If there is merit or value to what these other blogs produce, the free market version would be to step back and let them stand on their own, yes? Similarly to a government using brute force to squash an annoying protest, instead of the intended result of ending the problem, it is more likely to exacerbate it and give it more publicity. Personally, I had never heard of this paleo drama blog until you mentioned it.

    Now, I’m not saying that these other blogs are a “problem”, but rather suggesting that if they have value, then others will notice and join the “parade”. If not, then they will remain alone, shouting impotently into the void.

    You have a tremendous channel for communication that you wield here, entirely because of your years of dedication and forthrightness. You have the power to greatly shape the discussion, for good or bad.

    Thank you for your work.

  2. I think the problem with today is that people think there opinions matter just because they have them. Just because you think something doesn’t make it right. Reading through that link, if you were to filter out the self flatulating dribble it would go something like this: I think……….the end. I question someone who decides to make a blog for the sole purpose of pulling apart a whole movement. As you say just looking at her title, and caption line, you can tell they are seeking out ‘paleo drama’ and you have to question why they feel so desperate to prove themselves right. Also, while I am ranting, another annoying habit, which that blog shows an abundance of, is that there is only one right answer and that is the belief held by the writer…and this comes back to they just need to realise their opinion isn’t important. What I find hilarious is that the blog is clearly set out to pick and find fights with paleo minded folk (otherwise it wouldn’t last long would it), and yet the indignation they feel when someone tells them they are an idiot. Major issues…just saying. The only thing I agree with is the word ‘cunt’ is only offensive in North America, in New Zealand or Australia me and my friends (incl girls oops I mean woman) say it all the time. Rant over. Good job Richard [redacted per my admonishment in the post].

  3. Ok so to continue I just read the ‘why this site exists’ page and wow. But I can take a gander as to how this site came to be. For a year she has had people refuse to listen to her and rather draw the conclusion that her opinions are wrong, and people just don’t care about them, she has justified it in her head that it’s innate sexism in the community. I love the way she talks about this ‘sexism’ as all encompassing when in fact she is only talking from her own biased viewpoint. Have other woman experienced this? Because if they havn’t one would think that you should start to look inwardly and ask am I a [….], rather than going on a temper tantrum rampage for all those people that (in your head) did you wrong. Really ending rant now. But I HATE this type narrow-minded self righteous attitude.

  4. I don’t undestand how these two things are compatible: My preference is for passionate minds, love, hate or preferably, both. and …keep them on point, in context, and on the theme of cool objectivity.

    Passion, love, and hate are all things that I associate with subjectivity, not cool objectivity.

  5. Love:
    The fact that you commend HGL as “…a value-add blog and always has been”even though Melissa’s done gone batshit crazy.

    Hate:
    The fact that you redacted your posts from last week. In my opinion they were over the top and made you look nearly as crazy as M&E, but one thing I really liked about your blog was when you said (paraphrasing) “When I put something out there, I leave it be. I don’t go back and censor myself.”

  6. “I don’t understand”

    Too bad. Well, just keep working on it then. What am I, your life coach or something. The false dichotomy you present is too laughable to even address.

  7. Joshua:

    Here, school time. See the last line of the comment.

    http://freetheanimal.com/2013/03/mountain-labored-roared.html#comment-414559

    Learn to take on a disciplined approach to whatever you do, in the context of your aims. I’ve made mine clear and I always keep my word if I’m aware of it.

  8. Richard, it says right here in our contract that you are required to respond in detail to all of my quibbling, complaints, bitching AND moaning in a rational and coolly objective manner.

  9. Sue me, Joshua. :)

  10. +1 David Csonka

    Cancer only thrives when fed.

  11. ““When I put something out there, I leave it be. I don’t go back and censor myself.””

    Add to that that I also never hold a rule of thumb to be an eternal unwavering policy.

  12. beans mcgrady says:

    Rule of thumb. That should make it to PD as well.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E1weruUCeg

  13. “Cancer only thrives when fed.”

    Thanks Todd. I’ll keep that in mind when actually dealing with actual cancer.

    I’m as big a fan of metaphor as the next guy, but they are limited. On the other hand, what happens to cancer when you ignore it and do nothing, expecting it to just go away?

  14. To be honest I think people ignoring said blogger has probably created the monster. If people were more honest like Richard and told them that they are wrong, and a spade is a spade, then perhaps they wouldn’t be thinking that they are always right and that whatever they think is valid. I find it very hard to believe that someone has sent them death threats and I think it is a sign of a very unstable mind. Good on you Richard, I think you are cool even if no one else does:)

  15. Dan:

    Thanks. I always love to post the success stories. One thing I save is various missives I get almost daily from people who never comment. I take pride in being a voice that’s just genuine. Even a super well respected guy like Miki Ben-Dor isn’t afraid of me or what I say.

    http://www.paleostyle.com/?p=2143#comment-396

    Thanks Richard appreciate it. I have been following your blog for years.

    Reply
    Richard Nikoley says:
    March 24, 2013 at 1:51 am
    That means a lot to me. I know I don’t live up to the standards that would be appropriate with folks like you, Paul and other superstars who pop in.

    Or, maybe y’all do it for other reasons.

    bendor says:
    March 24, 2013 at 2:02 am
    Richard to my taste commonsense, originality, non-conformity and boldness are in short supply nowadays, especially in academic circles, so your blog is like a breath of fresh air even if don’t agree 100% with every post.

    Then, got this via email this afternoon:

    Richard,

    My name is xxx. I’m a pediatric radiologist in xxxxxx. I just wanted to thank you. I’ve been a fan/reader for years and I can honestly say I’ve learned more by reading your site than in all my years of formal education.

    Keep up the good work. If you are ever in my area please let me know…you and yours always have a home with us.

    xxx

  16. I just wanna hear more about this Milk Diet…. There will always be idiots who disagree with you, sometimes louder and more obnoxious than others. I do see the value of posts like this for you and your blog. Drives more people here and then they can snoop around and see all the informational stuff. For me, this site is one of my morning reads after the news and stocks. Keep putting out good INFORMATION….

  17. I’d rather that somebody be honest and nuts, than sane and a lier, just as much as I’d rather that somebody be open and genuine, than stubborn and delusional. It goes without saying that for me truth comes at a premium to fantasy.

    You’re on the right side, Richard. But then, you knew that.

  18. I find it very hard to believe that someone has sent them death threats

    Dan, how long have you been on the internet? I doubt they were serious threats, but I am not at all dubious that they’ve received death threats. I don’t back down from saying M&E are nuts, but the internet is chockablock full of crazies who will threaten death/rape/etc at the slightest provocation.

  19. Not sure if my comment belongs here, but I’ve been following this Paleo Periodical thread.
    (I guess I’m drawn to drama like anyone else, )

    The last two comments by “carbsanity” (is it that Evelyn lady, or some other random person?) are bizarre.
    It’s all about cracking eggs and free speech being relative.

    Reminds me of what the jackasses running China’s Cultural Revolution said:
    “The revolution is not a dinner party!”

    Paleosphere = China? Obviously not.

    Still…

  20. Leigh

    That is her, and everyone should have a look to see how pathetically out of water she is when not in her own element on her blog.

  21. On the other hand, what happens to cancer when you ignore it and do nothing, expecting it to just go away?

    Actually Richard, terribly sorry to necro-comment like this, but life-threatening ones sort of do just go away, if one would stop overfeeding themselves carbs, wrecking their carb/insulin metabolism to divert nutrients towards cancer and fat cells (and don’t get enough O3).

    In scanning for cancer, they use a radioactive molecule that mimics a nutrient to make sure what they are seeing on the scans is the *actual* cancer… something that cancers love to gobble up fast but other cells do not… can you guess what nutrient it mimics?

    Ever heard of… any… other… mammal or multi-cell organism… dying of cancer in its natural habitat? It’s almost like multi-cellular organisms evolved effective anti-cancer countermeasures, or something…. but us humans? No, we’re still “searching for the cure”, 80-90 years after Nobel laureate Warburg and his Effect and his (wrong but interesting) Hypothesis…

    Do me a favour and don’t ever donate anything to cancer research foundations. At this point, or any non-retarded scientist, it’s only a matter of connecting the dots and finding the intellectual courage to just flat out say that we do in fact have the cure for almost all cancers; we’ve had it for some time, but never paid attention.

    See: Gary Taubes’ chapter on Cancer, Aging & Dementia;
    also, read Sex, Power & Suicide by Nick Lane, a surprisingly interesting book on all things mitochondria.

  22. second-last paragraph: confused by my run-on second sentence? there’s an ‘f’ missing in a very important place

  23. I know all this mm. Search ‘cancer’ on the blog, ‘sugar feeds cancer’ etc.

    In those posts you should note that I was writing about actual cancer, not using it as an overreaching metaphor.

  24. oh… damn… well it’s good that I mentioned it anyways for readers, because it just shows how awesome science-based medicine is, and, how we really need to change high school curriculums or something because most M.D.s can’t critical-think their way out of beating cancer. I guess the radiology people must be a cloistered bunch.

  25. Dr. Curmudgeon Gee says:

    @mm,

    you must be thinking PET scan, yes?

    i think that it can highlight benign tumor as well/

    (a friend of mine got a big lump on his adrenal gland in PET scan. fortunately it was not cancerous but still it cased him a lot of trouble)

    cheers,

  26. I’m talking about any scan that uses a dye… not sure how many there are, positron emission topography makes sense. The radioactivity is the “dye” that they see but they can’t just inject any old radioactive molecule or else they’ll just get a pretty picture of the patient’s circulatory system. Even worse, they might accidentally remove your brain as that always eats up a lot of calories anyways so it’ll have the most concentrated amount of dye.

    They use molecules that basically act like radioactive glucose, because of the warburg effect; cancers (and tumors benign and malignant) rely heavily/exclusively on glucose fermentation without cellular respiration, most likely because if a cancer cell wants to have any chance of survival they’d better learn to shut down their mitochondria quick, as mitos are almost solely responsible for programmed cell death. With active mitochondria, cancer can burn ketones, fats, and glucose at maybe 15-20x the efficiency of glucose fermentation… but they will also die as soon as white blood cells tell them to kill themselves with TNF. But have no fear, cancers! All they need to do is load themselves up with insulin receptors and open their own little micro-breweries, and hope you’ll eat a lot of carbs – bonus point if you get insulin-resistant/chronically elevated levels of insulin in your blood, which means more food for them AND elevated levels of Insulin-like Growth Factor, a growth hormone cancers can use to multiply even faster, which is great because they are waging a serious evolutionary arms race against your own body, facing severe selection pressure and possible extinction at every turn. To add insult to injury, without mitos they basically starve and slowly get killed off when people go on ketogenic diets (in theory, and in reality in at least one study)

    This is why cancers have stages, and why some are more aggressive than others; they need to evolve an ability to do things like metastasize which takes varying degrees of time. Nick Lane’s Power, Sex, Suicide book goes into this.

  27. Dr. Curmudgeon Gee says:

    @mm

    oops, what i meant was :

    my friend’s PET scan showed he got a big lump.

    (not he got a lump due to PET scan. XD)

    i believe this is the test you’re thinking about. he was given FDG (fluro something glucose) 1 hr prior to the scan.

    the surgeon took it out; the lab showed that it was benign.

    although both Jaminet & Lucas Tafar have become less enthusiastic about ketogenic diet (to combat cancer).

    regards,

  28. Don’t worry, I didn’t think you meant what I thought you meant.

    It’s that FDG 1hr before scan that is the direct, basically bullet-proof argument, that anyone with cancer should go keto. They gave him glucose because they knew, by the Warburg Effect, that the cancer would eat most of it faster than anything else, once it got into his blood and his body released insulin. Cancer is always hungry, never insulin resistant, and burns glucose and glycolysis byproducts (including alcohol).
    Thus, radiologists use glucose because they don’t want to make mistakes. Other things like your liver, heart and brain will eventually eat the glucose too, which is why they scanned after one hour and not, say, two hours.
    I don’t have any fancy credentials; all this stuff is basic science, basic logic. If you want to argue that cancer doesn’t gobble up glucose/carbs as fast as possible, faster and more effectively than every other cell, you would have to also argue that radiologists are making a mistake when using glucose as dye. People say meat, or fat, causes cancer… why don’t radiologists use easily digestible, radioactive fats as dyes for cancer, then?

    • Mm

      One of the other interesting bits of research (rats and human cells in vitro, so far as I know) is that an extended fast of 5 days prior to chemo makes the chemo far more effective at killing cancer cells and far less effective at killing normal cells. It takes the war of attrition from a 1-1 kill ratio to 20 or 30-1.

      There’s a post on that somewhere too, something like ‘counterintuitive therapy’ or something.

  29. Oh yeah, I’ve heard about that too. The stress from fasting seems to make cancer cells weaker and white blood cells stronger and more chemo-resistant. Also injecting Omega-3 directly into cancer cells kills them..I think..or maybe it just gives them a big headache.

    We need more paleo oncologists.

    There’s a study somewhere by neurologists where they gave people who were on the verge of death from brain tumours basically no-carb/VLC diets and these people lived far longer than expected – their tumours even began to shrink.

    One thing’s for sure: don’t do what Steve Jobs did.

  30. Dr. Curmudgeon Gee says:

    @mm,

    it is not a sufficient condition (in my friend’s case)

    fasting is another way to achieve ketosis, yes? i forget Paul J or Mark discussed about fasting before chemo. there is MD interviewed by Jimmy who is a brain caner specialist. he advocates fasting 5 – 7 days/year.

    i think it may be more powerful than ketogenic diet tho.

    regards,

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