…Oh, One More Thing…

I’ll do this as a separate post rather than as an update to the one I just put up, because it’s that important. You can file this under either “why I do what I do” or, “Richard loves to rub people’s faces in steaming piles of stinky shit when they deserve it.”

Your choice.

Some time back, I posted about my parents-in-law’s 60th wedding anniversary. Sam has been a type 2 diabetic for 40 years or more—more than half his life. I’ve been there myself and seen BG readings after breakfast of 400+. I finally got him to take the potato starch challenge. I suggested he dose it with a mix of kefir and orange juice. He loves it.

He went mildly hypoglycemic at night after a few days, is having to reduce his insulin. (Update: he just reports in email that other things are improved, too, but out of respect for his privy’s I’ll leave it to your imagination.)

I have to say it: Fuck You Wooo, and your mocking, ridiculing and LOLing over this non-medical, cheap and easy intervention that thumbs its nose at you and your faux lernins. You’re a stupid, vapid, crazy, and unhinged bitch who thinks keto keeps you from being even more fucking crazy and OCD, while Occam’s Razor suggests it’s the source of your problems in the first place. …I take it back. Get out of the medical profession. You’re going to hurt people.

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  1. V

    It’s none of your business. You’re welcome to imagine what that might mean, as you wish. And, I’m more happy for some agitations than I am of others.

    I will never owe you anything in my life, just like the previous 53 years where I have never owed you anything.

  2. gabriella kadar says:

    I think it is somewhat irrational to not even try something and see if it makes any difference in quality of life. No need to make a public announcement or anything like that. Determine privately if there’s any change. If not, then fine.

    There’s more to health than a flat belly. Flat bellies are nice. Get the muscles in shape, that works well.

    Based on my observations of women, it appears they buy clothing according to numbers and not fit. I saw a few of them walking around today wearing coats that may have fit 20 -25 pounds ago. What’s with that anyway? A wool winter coat that delineates and stretches over every bulge can’t possibly keep a person warm, not here, not now. Drape ladies, drape. Winter coats need to have an air space between the coat and body. The air warms up and helps with insulation. I don’t care if someone crows about fitting into a size 0. If it looks like stuffed sausage, it’s not attractive at all. It’s the sartorial version of TMI.

    • Or, stop and think why that old thermos you carried around as a kid worked. Apply to clothing.

    • gabriella kadar says:


    • Well, to quibble, the reason Thermoses or any vacuum-sealed flasks work is that between the inner and outer layers of material there is a vacuum, so no heat can be transferred between the inside and the environment, theoretically. If there were air in that space, it would not keep the contents at temperature nearly as well. So the reason a thermos works can’t really be applied to clothing. Now you know.

    • Well, not exactly. Heat can still be transferred through the vacuum, but only by radiation. Not by conduction or convection. The glass is backed with a silver coating, reducing radiative transfer.

  3. I’m a 54 yr. old woman that was between 160-170lbs. for 20 yrs and have now maintained 135 lbs. low carbing fairly effortlessly for the last four years. Gave up gym membership. Sold treadmill and stationary bike. Stay in shape now by having the energy to live life to the fullest. Got back to my passion and bought myself a couple of horses. So riding, cleaning corrals, bucking hay and feed bags are my exercise. When I went low carb my a1c was 5.6 so not too bad. I have upped my carbs to around 60 grams daily and seems to be a sweet spot. Have always had fasting blood glucose under 100. Ct oarbs just make me want to sleep after I consume them and from testing my blood sugar I have a fast rise in blood sugar after consumption. Followed by a delay in insulin response and then a fast drop back to normal which kicks my but. Slightly shakey but not hypoglycemic. Was wondering if resistant starch might help smooth out my problem . Anyone with the same issue? Also do you not feel the rice, bean, tortilla etc. consumption caused your father in laws diabetes. I have a Mexican step father who is type2 and loved all those foods. Still does and has had 2 heart attacks. He cut out beef after the first one.Gabriella I agree but can’t say I don’t love my size 6 jeans now with a tank top compared to 14-16 and with an x-large top.

    • Hey Bea (I like that name, by the way)

      Looks to me like you have everything solidly in hand, so why not give RS a try on your own competent authority and also figure out a sweet spot if there is one to be had for you?

      I’m sure you trust you the most.

    • Damn it! I knew you would be nice to me because of my name. I was expecting to be told to f-off because I said beans, rice and tortillas cause the big-D. I have had a bag of Bob Mills here for a month or so just have been a little nervous to try as my innards have always been a little delicate which low carb helps.

    • “I was expecting to be told to f-off”

      I’m so sorry to disappoint you. :)

      Luvs and I wish you well, even if you hate me for it.

    • No hate. Will post results.

  4. Anonymous says:

    That Woo is mentally unstable. I just spent 20 minutes reading some of her rants on FB. She’s not a happy person, and for some reason is really threatened by something you’re doing, Richard. Reminds me of myself when I was on low carb – a hormonal, depressed, anxious, ranting mess.

  5. Anonymous says:

    Has anyone at any point ever said that RS would improve body composition?

    • kayumochi says:

      It has improved my body composition …

    • Mine too, ad libitum, and no gym at the moment.

    • I don’t recall directly, but in one of the major studies they found no weight loss on an RS supplement, but the subject’s waist size diminished. Instead of seeing the obvious – improved lean body mass – they just shrugged it off.

      My composition is improving, but I can’t claim to know how much is due to weight loss and how much to RS.

    • Recipe – I started mixing 1 scoop chocolate protein powder (I’m using Chocolate milk protein from truenutrition) with 2 tablespoons PS, and adding enough kefir to make pudding consisentcy. Taste is awesome – reminds me of something I can’t put my finger on – chocolatey yet slightly sour twang. The protein for satiety/”muscle” purposes – Kefir for bugs – PS for RS.

      When I started PS supplementation, my weight also went up with visible increase in body fat (less vascularity (arm/abdominal), nothing extreme weight wise – from 165 – 173). I was generally eating a larger amount than usual, though, as I was in a period of stress (always makes me say “screw it, pizza night again”) and figured I could deal with weight gain given the rapid strength increases I was seeing in the gym.

      I’m presently tinkering with calories and diet to incorporate RS in a way that suits me, as whole milk kefir + RS is a significant portion of daily calorie intake in my day for a “supplement.” By decreasing the Kefir and adding protein, I can create a meal that’s more filling than PS/Kefir alone, higher in protein (I see this as a plus), and equal to lower in calories, yet doesn’t create the “damn this is good I could eat a gallon of this” sensation (why are you so tasty, kefir?)

      So I’ve gone from 4 tablespoons every day of RS mixed in kefir to 2 – 4 tablespoons mixed in water on days I know I haven’t eaten “as much,” (basically every other day-ish) and have added kefir in when I feel hungry at the time of RS consumption (or as per recipe above). Diet wise, I’ve generally been ratcheting up protein and carb ratios and decreasing fat. Of every dietary methodology I’ve tried, nothing has facilitated ideal body composition and strength like high protein/carbs.

      I wish I never bought into drinking whole cream in lieu of eating rice for calories lol….

    • After a few months, it has started to improve my body composition (and my girlfriend’s). We are both in our 60s, and active. We’re noticing a reduction in puffiness in the face (as are others, independently), and I’m starting to see some body fat reduction. Not much if any weight loss up to now, but that seems to be starting to happen as well. I’m down a couple of pounds, with no particular attempts to do so.

      Prior to RS (potato starch), I was trying to get rid of about 10 lbs of fat with ketosis, which has worked for me over the years. This time, however, no go. Not only would I not lose weight/fat, but I felt like crap as well when I had the deep purple sticks.

  6. V:

    So, I deleted your 2 comments, restated in….let me see if I can recall…Spanish, Portuguese, German, and Chinese. Did I miss a tongue?

    Let me repeat: it’s none of your business.

    Now, feel free to go forth on all the comment threads you want, as you have been doing for years, and make everything you can possibly make of that. Please get started now.

  7. 不对,原因是RS和减肥的关系不是那么明确,但是跟健康的关系很明显.

    “gei women kan nide du du”

    This has to be one of the most ironically funny trolls I have seen in ages. Particularly if you interpret “stomach” (du du) as “doo-doo”. This blog is flooded with images and data of doo-doo.

    • Was that in one of V’s posts I deleted?


      Now you’ve made me sorry.

      I just told someone in email that V is not a troll, just someone giving me shit since like 2008.

      s’elle n’existait pas, il faudrait l’inventer.

  8. And that would be why, V?

    The book will be written in English (hopefully, there will eventually be Spanish, Portuguese, German and Chines editions…did I miss a tongue?).

    Presuming it will be written in a comprehensible language, perhaps you can tell everyone why, exactly, the poor or excellent status of my tummy is relevant.

    Or, are you simply projecting your own inability to sort out objectivity?

  9. can anyone with a New Scientist subscription read the linked article and let us know what the conclusions are?


  10. “i will post them over at woo’s maybe.”

    Oh, cool. 12 people will read them, once they get done with her OCD stream of conscience Twitter that (if you pay attention) is nearly 24/7. I.e., she’s not sleeping properly. Go figure.

    Maybe even Wooo herself will read them after she gets done with her tweeting.

    …And yes, I know, why do I look. Well, we all have our faults.

    “and maintaining my weight loss for years, ”

    You’re such a risk taking self experimenter. I’m sure there’s a blog or something I can read. I’d particularly like to read about your self experimentation with GOMAD and how you gained 20 pounds on purpose. Just for instance.

    Keep blazing that trail, V, please stay obsessed with me too.

  11. For the record, I’m not this “V” person. Just want that to be clear.

  12. Hey V,
    Let’s see a pic of your “abdomen in profile”….otherwise shut your cock holster.

  13. Esperanto?

  14. @mart
    That new scientist article speaks to the health benefits of some bacterial strains in terms of mental health or so-called “psychbiotics”. Certain brain functions are impaired when strains of bacteria are missing. For example, mice grown in the absence of bacteria exhibit emotional, memory and behavior changes -“autistic-like” – compared to a control group due to changes in their underlying chemistry (specifically serotonin). A study out of CalTech indrotuced Bacteroides fragilis to young mice, which reduced autism-like behavior.

    “How exactly do gut bacteria influence the brain? The mechanisms are becoming clear. The bacterium Lactobacillus rhamnosus, which is used in dairy products, has potent anti-anxiety effects in animals, and works by changing the expression of GABA receptors in the brain. These changes are mediated by the vagus nerve, which connects the brain and gut. When this nerve is severed no effect on anxiety or on GABA receptors is seen following psychobiotic treatment with L. rhamnosus.

    “L. rhamnosus has also been shown to alleviate OCD-like behaviours in mice. Interestingly, this bacterium not only alters GABA receptors in the brain but has been shown to synthesize and release GABA. Other evidence supports the view that gut bacteria may influence the brain in routes other than the vagus nerve –by altering the immune system and via the manufacture of short-chain fatty acids, for example.

    “Just as certain genes render bacteria pathogenic, it is likely that clusters of genes within gut bacteria provide mental health benefits. However, the essential genes for effective psychobiotics have yet to be established. It may be that, in the future, the ideal psychobiotic will be a genetically modified organism containing genes from several different bacteria. In the meantime, cocktails of bacteria are likely to be more effective than single strains in producing health benefits. For example, a 2011 study showed that a combination of Lactobacillus helveticus and Bifidobacterium longum reduced anxiety and depressive symptoms in healthy volunteers. A 2013 neuroimaging study showed that a fermented milk product containing four different probiotic bacteria was associated with the reduced response of a brain network involved in the processing of emotion and sensation. And certain strains of bacteria can reduce the symptoms of irritable bowel syndrome, a common stress-related disorder of the brain-gut axis. This is probably achieved through a reduction in levels of the “stress hormone” cortisol and of inflammatory molecules produced by the immune system.

    “These findings are promising, but we are still a long way from the development of clinically proven psychobiotics and it remains to be seen whether they are capable of acting like –or perhaps even replacing –antidepressants. At a time when prescriptions for antidepressants have reached record levels, effective natural alternatives with fewer side effects would be welcome. We are currently completing a study of the gut microbiota in people with severe depression. If we find consistent alterations, this will provide a strong rationale for targeting depression with a suitable psychobiotic. We are also about to start a placebo-controlled study of Lactobacillus brevis in treating anxiety in healthy volunteers.

    “We must, however, sound a note of caution. Despite marketing claims to the contrary, most putative probiotics have no psychobiotic activity. Until recently, lax regulation in both the US and the European Union allowed manufacturers to make outlandish claims without supporting data. This situation is changing and will protect consumers from fraudulent marketing, but the reality is that only a small percentage of bacteria tested have positive neurobehavioural effects. Some bacteria fail to survive storage in the health food store or are eliminated by acidity in the stomach. Even if they do survive gut transit, they may be devoid of health benefits.”

    • Everything after the first paragraph is quoted from the New Scientist article. Pardon the mess, but I did it from my phone and, well, it was a pain in the ass…. :)

    • You did that from your phone?

      Im impressed. I’ve given up on anything but short quips or quotes, so long as the fucker copies and pastes correctly.

      You’re my God for the next couple of minutes, Robert.

      PS: fixed the quotes and a formatting fart here & there. Welcomez

    • Thanks, Richard. Goes to show how much time I spend “perfecting” my time with the device.

      One last thing: I should probably add the author’s bio that accompanied that article. Their works deserves to be recognized.

      “John Cryan is a professor of anatomy and neuroscience and Timothy Dinan is a professor of psychiatry, both at University College Cork in Ireland. They are principal investigators at UCC’s Alimentary Pharmabiotic Centre, focusing on the interaction between stress and the brain-gut axis in relation to depression, cognition and irritable bowel syndrome.”

    • Where do I get some of these anti-autism bacteria, and how do I get them into me? I need faster/better emotional processing!

    • Thank you for the summary!
      How would someone have a severed vagus nerve?

      Regards, Regina

    • Spanish Caravan says:

      Three out of the four psychobiotic strains mentioned in the article are in Bio-Kult, the probiotic brand recommended by those who follow GAPS (guts and psychology). No wonder, autistic kids might benefit from them. I’m gonna try 2 tablets of Bio-Kult with 4 tbsps. of PS and see if any effect. The problem is Bio-Kult in very small tablets and you need to take 2 at a time to seem to have any effect. It’s the smallest dose among any probiotics that I’ve tried.

      GoL’s Primal Life also has 3 out of 4. Just doesn’t have Helvetica.

  15. Here is an interview with John Cryan re: gut bacteria and anxious mice on NPR: http://www.npr.org/2011/09/02/140146780/probiotic-bacteria-chill-out-anxious-mice

  16. Thanks Robert! “How exactly do gut bacteria influence the brain?”… Well perhaps science needs to also look at how gut bacteria affect other parts of the body too!

  17. Damn it Richard. It isn’t fair that you’re giving inside information to favored readers like V and withholding it from the rest of us.

    I thought that you and Tim were writing a health book with a focus on gut health. I had no idea that it was really a body building manual.

  18. Dang that Woo is a real cutie.

  19. Resistant starch has given me a visible six pack for the first time in 5+yrs. Leaning-out-rate greater than at any other point in paleo( 1.5 yrs)-except for many the first 2 weeks grain-free- and eating highest carb count since going paleo. Lots of whote rice, regular potatoes and sweet potatoes. Willing to post pics- they’re pretty telling. And Richard, it would be disadvantageous to dismiss me on the in his 20s card. Im only 24 , but its obvious when things are having nnotable-beneficial-physiological effects. More stable, better mood, longer, deeper sleep and better-TMI-consistency are other effects. Some heartburn, diarrhea too, but to a much lesser negative jdegree than the positives were positive.
    Have to say FreeTheAnimal and the accompanying ‘contoversy’ and holding other paleo bloggers accountable for their opinions and recommendations is invaluable in terms of promoting total human wellness.

  20. kayumochi says:

    Isn’t it Art Devany who says “Come back and see me when you are 70” Sam? If a 24 year old man can’t eat most anything and look good, well, something is wrong …

    • “If a 24 year old man can’t eat most anything and look good, well, something is wrong …”

      Well obviously. Today there are way more metabolically broken 20 somethings than a generation ago, and there were more then than in my generation growing up in the 50s & 60s…but there were still some then.

      When you combine cheap calories with bad health advice, it’s no wonder.

    • 18-month-old babies are becoming obese (I’m sure that’s because they are either gluttonous or slothful). So AD’s comment really doesn’t hold as much water as it used to. Something IS wrong, and it’s not necessarily a moral failing of younger folks. I think it’s great that Sam is taking care of himself, and notice that he said “Thanks.” I think that’s very cool.

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