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		<title>Comment on Lierre Keith Gets a Cayenne Laced Pie in the Face During San Francisco Book Fair Speech by tim marshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>tim marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 08:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>correct,all worldviews have a subset of extremists. you hit the nail on the head, and I reiterate that we  dont even know who these guys were and its not unfeasible that they were from a group that dislikes keith for a different reason especially considering the bad press veganism is getting as a result of this.. and keith has offended more than one group.

someone mentioned a scenario with vegans roaming the streets with weapons looking for meat eaters.. its a joke, veganism is a compassionate movement, dont confuse the vegetarian including ALF type groups who are raging hypocrites, you cant indict someone for eating animals when you drink their milk and take their eggs etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>correct,all worldviews have a subset of extremists. you hit the nail on the head, and I reiterate that we  dont even know who these guys were and its not unfeasible that they were from a group that dislikes keith for a different reason especially considering the bad press veganism is getting as a result of this.. and keith has offended more than one group.</p>
<p>someone mentioned a scenario with vegans roaming the streets with weapons looking for meat eaters.. its a joke, veganism is a compassionate movement, dont confuse the vegetarian including ALF type groups who are raging hypocrites, you cant indict someone for eating animals when you drink their milk and take their eggs etc.</p>
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		<title>Comment on And Chris Gabel Rings In by Chris G</title>
		<link>http://freetheanimal.com/2010/03/and-chris-gabel-rings-in.html#comment-16512</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 07:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What helps the most?  I&#039;d say keeping refined carbs down &amp; fats up - helps appetite control a LOT.  What&#039;s hard is being around the bad stuff with little or no good stuff for any length of time.  Fortunately, it&#039;s not too hard to exercise some control over one&#039;s circumstances.

Time &amp; planning/preparation make a big difference.  I definitely do best when time is not too cramped - easier to get in the walking &amp; easier to plan &amp; execute meals.  It&#039;s always good to have foods you can assemble quickly for those days when time is less plentiful.  Foods I find helpful - canned salmon (or smoked salmon), cheese - love that Kerrygold Dubliner cheese that Costco sells in big blocks,  cut veggies like carrots, celery, radishes.  I make a big pot-o-chili which provides leftovers for a few days&#039; lunch.  Same for making a big pot roast.  

Also, I&#039;m not into deprivation.  I keeps some things around like dark chocolate and red wine, which, in modest amounts add pleasure (and antioxidants).  I&#039;ll IF once or twice a week, usually in conjunction with my lifting day - boost that GH, baby!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What helps the most?  I&#8217;d say keeping refined carbs down &amp; fats up &#8211; helps appetite control a LOT.  What&#8217;s hard is being around the bad stuff with little or no good stuff for any length of time.  Fortunately, it&#8217;s not too hard to exercise some control over one&#8217;s circumstances.</p>
<p>Time &amp; planning/preparation make a big difference.  I definitely do best when time is not too cramped &#8211; easier to get in the walking &amp; easier to plan &amp; execute meals.  It&#8217;s always good to have foods you can assemble quickly for those days when time is less plentiful.  Foods I find helpful &#8211; canned salmon (or smoked salmon), cheese &#8211; love that Kerrygold Dubliner cheese that Costco sells in big blocks,  cut veggies like carrots, celery, radishes.  I make a big pot-o-chili which provides leftovers for a few days&#8217; lunch.  Same for making a big pot roast.  </p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m not into deprivation.  I keeps some things around like dark chocolate and red wine, which, in modest amounts add pleasure (and antioxidants).  I&#8217;ll IF once or twice a week, usually in conjunction with my lifting day &#8211; boost that GH, baby!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lierre Keith Gets a Cayenne Laced Pie in the Face During San Francisco Book Fair Speech by Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 07:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to be vegan, knock yourself out. I disagree that it is the logical conclusion of human rights, but this is not the place to debate such things.

I do have a problem with dragging morality into it. Whether or not you personally believe that the ends justifies the means is moot. The fact is, people who believe they are on the moral high ground tend to find this an easy path to take. Such idealists feel justified imposing their views on non-idealists. And it leads intelligent people to do all sorts of idiotic things like, say, be an apologist for Stalin (G.B. Shaw, et al).

Everyone standing on the moral high ground believes their worldview consists of simple consistent criteria, and all of these worldviews have their extremists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to be vegan, knock yourself out. I disagree that it is the logical conclusion of human rights, but this is not the place to debate such things.</p>
<p>I do have a problem with dragging morality into it. Whether or not you personally believe that the ends justifies the means is moot. The fact is, people who believe they are on the moral high ground tend to find this an easy path to take. Such idealists feel justified imposing their views on non-idealists. And it leads intelligent people to do all sorts of idiotic things like, say, be an apologist for Stalin (G.B. Shaw, et al).</p>
<p>Everyone standing on the moral high ground believes their worldview consists of simple consistent criteria, and all of these worldviews have their extremists.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Any Ideas For a Fellow Traveller? by martin svendsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>martin svendsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 05:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe a bit late to comment on this post but :

Has Jeff tried supplementing with magnesium ? It is one of the most common recommendations for both sleepless nights and persistent headache on a national forum for low-carb.(I&#039;m in Norway) Recommended doses varies greatly but the most common are between 200 and 400 mg, 30 minutes before bed, as magnesium will make you drowsy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe a bit late to comment on this post but :</p>
<p>Has Jeff tried supplementing with magnesium ? It is one of the most common recommendations for both sleepless nights and persistent headache on a national forum for low-carb.(I&#8217;m in Norway) Recommended doses varies greatly but the most common are between 200 and 400 mg, 30 minutes before bed, as magnesium will make you drowsy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Paleosphere&#8221; by Stacy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 02:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey bro, hate to twist that knife in the other direction but it&#039;s actually in a dictionary, The Century Dictionary and Cyclopedia.  

http://books.google.com/books?id=5ELpAAAAMAAJ&amp;pg=PA4932&amp;lpg=PA4932&amp;dq=Paleosphere&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=1WuPtw5m8e&amp;sig=5FooJTdAtpjN5mqZnsGSWDt1T7Y&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=tIWlS4qNC4LGlQe-tux1&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=8&amp;ved=0CCAQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&amp;q=Paleosphere&amp;f=false</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey bro, hate to twist that knife in the other direction but it&#8217;s actually in a dictionary, The Century Dictionary and Cyclopedia.  </p>
<p><a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=5ELpAAAAMAAJ&amp;pg=PA4932&amp;lpg=PA4932&amp;dq=Paleosphere&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=1WuPtw5m8e&amp;sig=5FooJTdAtpjN5mqZnsGSWDt1T7Y&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=tIWlS4qNC4LGlQe-tux1&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=8&amp;ved=0CCAQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&amp;q=Paleosphere&amp;f=false" rel="nofollow">http://books.google.com/books?id=5ELpAAAAMAAJ&amp;pg=PA4932&amp;lpg=PA4932&amp;dq=Paleosphere&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=1WuPtw5m8e&amp;sig=5FooJTdAtpjN5mqZnsGSWDt1T7Y&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=tIWlS4qNC4LGlQe-tux1&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=8&amp;ved=0CCAQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&amp;q=Paleosphere&amp;f=false</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Modern Paleo by Paul</title>
		<link>http://freetheanimal.com/2010/03/modern-paleo.html#comment-16508</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 00:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just move to Europe :D
i recommend Greece. 
I hear this &quot;common good&quot; shit everyday here and it&#039;s totally bullshit.

At least try to make a living (like u do right now) in Greece, Spain or Portugal (the next bankrupt) and see how it is to live under nations who are more headed to the &quot;common good&quot;.

I bet Europe is romanticized in your country, but for real, Greece is one of the countries whose standard was &quot;The common good&quot; 
Think of the others, the poor :  they said this shit all the time and asked for fresh money from the EU for several years, because those &quot;poor people&quot; try so hard to get it done. HAHA The other Countries need to push up the poor ( bankrupt ) countries and shouldn&#039;t be so selfish. Collectivism was the answer and now there is riot, savings by the Greece are kinda worthless, as well as payments to public insurances. 

You&#039;ll regret everything u said :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just move to Europe <img src='http://freetheanimal.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
i recommend Greece.<br />
I hear this &#8220;common good&#8221; shit everyday here and it&#8217;s totally bullshit.</p>
<p>At least try to make a living (like u do right now) in Greece, Spain or Portugal (the next bankrupt) and see how it is to live under nations who are more headed to the &#8220;common good&#8221;.</p>
<p>I bet Europe is romanticized in your country, but for real, Greece is one of the countries whose standard was &#8220;The common good&#8221;<br />
Think of the others, the poor :  they said this shit all the time and asked for fresh money from the EU for several years, because those &#8220;poor people&#8221; try so hard to get it done. HAHA The other Countries need to push up the poor ( bankrupt ) countries and shouldn&#8217;t be so selfish. Collectivism was the answer and now there is riot, savings by the Greece are kinda worthless, as well as payments to public insurances. </p>
<p>You&#8217;ll regret everything u said <img src='http://freetheanimal.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Modern Paleo by CapitalistSwine</title>
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		<dc:creator>CapitalistSwine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 00:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;burying our heads in the sand and allowing individual freedom to negate our collective responsibility for the well-being of our planet&quot;

Yes, let us limit our freedoms, especially when the unleashing of technology through unhindered industry and research firms along with universal property rights with property laws would solve the majority of the environmental problems we squander in today. How absolutely nauseating that comment is. I really don&#039;t think people understand what freedom means anymore. A bit disheartening since we had the liked of &quot;can I find some food underneath the masses of bodies&quot; Russia and Nazi Germany were only a few decades ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;burying our heads in the sand and allowing individual freedom to negate our collective responsibility for the well-being of our planet&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, let us limit our freedoms, especially when the unleashing of technology through unhindered industry and research firms along with universal property rights with property laws would solve the majority of the environmental problems we squander in today. How absolutely nauseating that comment is. I really don&#8217;t think people understand what freedom means anymore. A bit disheartening since we had the liked of &#8220;can I find some food underneath the masses of bodies&#8221; Russia and Nazi Germany were only a few decades ago.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Modern Paleo by damaged justice</title>
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		<dc:creator>damaged justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 00:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;maybe, just maybe, it’s not bad to think about other people and work towards the common good&lt;/i&gt;

How will your gun help me do that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>maybe, just maybe, it’s not bad to think about other people and work towards the common good</i></p>
<p>How will your gun help me do that?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Modern Paleo by Jesse Bastide</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse Bastide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 00:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...there is a place for awareness as to the ecological impact of our food choices.&quot; 

Awareness is just that. It&#039;s not a mandate that you must eat a certain way. It&#039;s not a pronouncement that some inherently have the right to eat meat but others do not. Simply, without awareness, you can&#039;t make intelligent choices about what you do eat.

For instance, it wasn&#039;t until fairly recently that people realized that not all meat was created equal, and that some meats were pumped full of hormones and antibiotics while others were pasture raised at lower population densities. The meats that were not finished with grain and unadulterated by hormones and antibiotics had a much healthier fatty acid profile, as Loren Cordain&#039;s book, &quot;The Paleo Diet&quot;, made clear. 

Raising livestock without antibiotics and growth hormones also means that the incidence of drug-resistant strains of bacteria is lower.That has a tremendous benefit for public health. Since livestock are breeding grounds for human diseases, minimizing or eliminating our reliance on factory-farming methods give us a better chance, as a general population, of staying healthy and ahead of the &#039;superbugs&#039;, not to mention the viruses that thrive and recombine in potentially deadly new biological cocktails on high density poultry and pig farms.

Where animal husbandry in a traditional form (ie, grass-fed, no grain finishing, longer time to market) fails is in producing enough quantity to satisfy the tastes of Western consumers. People are used to being able to get cheap meat. And unfortunately, the ground beef in a McDonald&#039;s burger is nothing like what Paleo hunters speared, stoned, or ran to death in the wild. It&#039;s also extremely resource intensive to raise animals in a factory-farm setting, which raises questions about the long term environmental sustainability of such an approach.

No problem, right? You could say, &#039;it&#039;s a free market, so I&#039;ll just buy the good stuff.&#039; And that&#039;s what many of us, as practitioners of paleo-style eating, do, because we have the means and opportunity. But if you approach nutrition as a cornerstone of health, and you shift your focus from personal health to public health, you see a different picture. There are over 1 billion people who suffer from hunger, and protein energy malnutrition is rampant (from worldhunger.org). While it would be nice for those people who are suffering to be able to eat meat every day, or even every week, it&#039;s not going to happen. Awareness of such inequality, especially when the contrast between the haves and the have-nots is so large, is one step towards making more informed decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;there is a place for awareness as to the ecological impact of our food choices.&#8221; </p>
<p>Awareness is just that. It&#8217;s not a mandate that you must eat a certain way. It&#8217;s not a pronouncement that some inherently have the right to eat meat but others do not. Simply, without awareness, you can&#8217;t make intelligent choices about what you do eat.</p>
<p>For instance, it wasn&#8217;t until fairly recently that people realized that not all meat was created equal, and that some meats were pumped full of hormones and antibiotics while others were pasture raised at lower population densities. The meats that were not finished with grain and unadulterated by hormones and antibiotics had a much healthier fatty acid profile, as Loren Cordain&#8217;s book, &#8220;The Paleo Diet&#8221;, made clear. </p>
<p>Raising livestock without antibiotics and growth hormones also means that the incidence of drug-resistant strains of bacteria is lower.That has a tremendous benefit for public health. Since livestock are breeding grounds for human diseases, minimizing or eliminating our reliance on factory-farming methods give us a better chance, as a general population, of staying healthy and ahead of the &#8217;superbugs&#8217;, not to mention the viruses that thrive and recombine in potentially deadly new biological cocktails on high density poultry and pig farms.</p>
<p>Where animal husbandry in a traditional form (ie, grass-fed, no grain finishing, longer time to market) fails is in producing enough quantity to satisfy the tastes of Western consumers. People are used to being able to get cheap meat. And unfortunately, the ground beef in a McDonald&#8217;s burger is nothing like what Paleo hunters speared, stoned, or ran to death in the wild. It&#8217;s also extremely resource intensive to raise animals in a factory-farm setting, which raises questions about the long term environmental sustainability of such an approach.</p>
<p>No problem, right? You could say, &#8216;it&#8217;s a free market, so I&#8217;ll just buy the good stuff.&#8217; And that&#8217;s what many of us, as practitioners of paleo-style eating, do, because we have the means and opportunity. But if you approach nutrition as a cornerstone of health, and you shift your focus from personal health to public health, you see a different picture. There are over 1 billion people who suffer from hunger, and protein energy malnutrition is rampant (from worldhunger.org). While it would be nice for those people who are suffering to be able to eat meat every day, or even every week, it&#8217;s not going to happen. Awareness of such inequality, especially when the contrast between the haves and the have-nots is so large, is one step towards making more informed decisions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Modern Paleo by ToddBS</title>
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		<dc:creator>ToddBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 23:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Hyperbole much?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Hyperbole much?</p>
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