The Rob Breakenridge Interview; AM 770 CHQR, Alberta

So the interview went well, I think.

It’s up in the archives already and is about 15 minutes in length I’d guess. You can access it at the archive page, where you’ll need to put in the date & time: March 9, 2010; 10:00 PM. It begins at 34:00, so, if the Canadian current issues aren’t of interest to you then you’ll need to pause it and wait a while for it to buffer, until you can slide the play marker over to 34:00.

Let me know what you think. My one critique would be that I spent all my time in thinking and reflection beforehand focussing on potential objections like average lifespans of 30 and so on. Rob appears not to be a confrontational interviewer, which I gathered in listening to an archived show and then listening during the lead up to the interview itself. The bright spot is that I got most of the time just to lay out some of the important aspects of a paleo lifestyle.

I was also impressed with how Rob Breakenridge got so many distinctions right as well as, at the end of the interview, how he clearly surmised that the reason for the popularity of this lifestyle is that people actually enjoy it. It’s not a chore at all.

So good deal, all in all. Onward.

Later: Commenter Matt Brody explains how to download it as a podcast.

You can download the mp3 if you click the ‘Podcasts’ link on the left side navigation (takes you here:

then the ‘Subscribe via RSS’ link shows the latest shows. For some reason the ‘Download this episode’ link isn’t functioning in Firefox (though I did get it to work in IE).


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23 Comments

  1. Organic Gabe on March 10, 2010 at 09:53

    Good show, Richard.

    I live in Calgary, Alberta, so this is good to hear :)



  2. Steven on March 10, 2010 at 10:11

    Thought you had a good showing.



  3. Alex on March 10, 2010 at 10:52

    At the top of the hour, he pronounced your last name nih-COLE-lee, and during the segment he pronounced it nih-coe-LYE. So, how do you pronounce your last name?



    • Richard Nikoley on March 10, 2010 at 14:20

      Alex:

      Good ear. It’s the latter that’s correct. I’d heard the preview prior to the commercial break, live and when the producer called I said that while no big deal, the correct pronunciation is…



  4. Matt Brody on March 10, 2010 at 12:24

    You can download the mp3 if you click the ‘Podcasts’ link on the left side navigation (takes you here:

    then the ‘Subscribe via RSS’ link shows the latest shows. For some reason the ‘Download this episode’ link isn’t functioning in Firefox (though I did get it to work in IE).



    • ToddBS on March 10, 2010 at 16:09

      I don’t see Richard’s interview in the podcast section yet. The latest episode is apparently about some deranged minister.



      • Richard Nikoley on March 10, 2010 at 16:15

        Yea, me neither. But since they’re up to near where we launched, maybe soon. I might just download it and put it on the blog.



      • JUPITER BOONE on March 10, 2010 at 16:39

        that would be great, for some reason i can’t get it to play on firefox or IE, and i missed the live feed because of work and i really want to hear the interview, technology making my life easier my ass.



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  6. Robert in Norcal on March 10, 2010 at 18:12

    Great interview, Ricardo. Enjoyed it immensely. He must have disarmed you a bit because you were the kinder, gentler, more reflective and charming Richard. I was thinking he was gonna play devil’s advocate and that you were gonna have to break out the loin cloth and club.

    Pertaining to his dubbing the segment with “Caveman,” you can now borrow from Geico and tell people that the Paleo Lifestyle is so easy, even a Caveman can do it.



    • Richard Nikoley on March 10, 2010 at 18:17

      I prefer ‘San Jose Bob’s’ comments. Where oh where is SJB?



      • Richard Nikoley on March 10, 2010 at 18:18

        Not to even mention San Jose Sparkie, a whole ‘nuther world indeed.



  7. Skyler Tanner on March 10, 2010 at 18:46

    Great interview. I expected your speaking style to be more aggressive. I can’t imagine why. ;)

    Best,
    Skyler



    • Richard Nikoley on March 10, 2010 at 18:50

      I’m a very complex person, Skyler. Actually, I needed a hug after that interview. :)



  8. Travis on March 10, 2010 at 19:43

    Nice interview, Richard. A great way to spread the word.



  9. Adam Cilonis on March 10, 2010 at 21:34

    Nice job. I was surprised how much time he gave you to just lay it out. Too bad you didn’t get to freak out his audience by talking about fasting! Maybe an encore is in order?!?



  10. Marc on March 11, 2010 at 06:14

    I think you did well. My one critique in case you do this again is that you seemed bent on clarifying the minutia to the point where you glossed over some of the larger concepts. What I mean was that if someone was getting their first introduction to paleo I think the point about whether it’s a literal or figurative version of caveman is not nearly as important as the fact that WE HAVE BEEN LIED TO ABOUT SATURATED FAT CAUSING HEART DISEASE, “Heart Healthy” whole grains are a lie, and frank-en oils are not healthier than good old butter and lard.



    • Richard Nikoley on March 11, 2010 at 11:42

      I appreciate that, Marc.

      But I also think it’s worthwhile to consider that the best opening, general message is one of wide inclusiveness: just eat Real Food. Then, when a person looks more into it and sees, oh, arterycloggingsaturatedfat they can certainly be given the info on that, and at the same time told that is they remain unconvinced then they can still eat paleo anyway. Just make it predominantly fish & lean fowl, and up the starchy veggies to replace sat fat calories.

      See the beauty of it?



  11. Aurini on March 11, 2010 at 16:35

    Another Calgary listener here – you did a good job, though there wasn’t much new for us who follow your blog.

    FYI – I tried out that no-soap thing you suggested on BoingBoing and my results are as follows:

    Body smell:
    10% – probability that it is slightly worse
    60% – probability that it is unchanged
    30% – probability that it is slightly better

    Skin (acne)
    50% – probability of no change
    30% – probability of slight improvement
    20% – probability of substantial improvement

    In other words, I’m not entirely positive that things aren’t slightly worse (given I don’t have experimental measurements that’s to be expected), but I’m fairly certain they aren’t; as for improvements, I doubt my own observations – motivated as I am to delude myself into noticing them – but I assign a higher probability to improvements than to detriments.

    In other words: it works. And since going somewhat paleo/atkins I’m definitely noticing improvements on my waistline.



  12. Ned Kock on March 11, 2010 at 17:18

    At points you sounded a bit like a scholar and philosopher Richard. I think some readers of this blog get the opposite (and wrong) impression when they see your F-bombs from time to time. Reading some of your posts, I get the impression that you are closer to Aristotle than to Maximus Decimus Meridius.

    Also, your description of your struggle with diets (including Atkins), walking to lose weight, the day-trading stint etc. provided a very good introduction that many people will relate to. Congrats! Jumping right into a “big fat lies” monologue would not have achieved the same positive results, IMHO.



    • Richard Nikoley on March 11, 2010 at 17:23

      Thanks Ned. Always the thoughtful comments from you.

      Yes, I wanted to essentially convey the message that I was just some guy like everyone else with his own set of problems and I found a way to stop & reverse them. There are many facets. Diet is huge, of course, but other elements can be so supportive and really just builds of what you foundationally establish with diet:

      1) hunger, i.e., some degree of natural, acute fasting and not chronic caloric dedravation.
      2) sleep
      3) good relationships
      4) limiting of useless, stress inducing information
      5) movement

      On point 5, I have a post I’m working on about how I’ve radically changed my whole workout method.



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