What Two Ignorant Morons Having a Discussion Sounds Like

"Dr. Holly Phillips spoke to Maggie Rodriguez about the grave dangers of eating red meat daily."

That was from March of 2009. I actually blogged about the stupid non-study behind such nonsense that passes for news reporting. Dr. Eades demolished it as well.

I don’t know if it’s just me, but it seems as though I’m seeing a whole lot less of this kind of crap, lately. Let’s hope so, and that I keep having to dip up 2-yr old crap to give us something to laugh about.

Oh, and Dr. Holly Phillips? Complete dipshit who should know better. Plus, she’s a fat ass and she’s a fat ass because she knows shit about nutrition.


  1. Success Warrior on August 23, 2010 at 17:08

    I hope you’re right about the dumbness diminishing over time but I went off on on a new “news” article on my blog today that was dumb just from the heading.

  2. O Primitivo on August 23, 2010 at 19:46

    “Cholesterol was Healthy in the End”, Dr. Uffe Ravnskov –

  3. Felipe on August 23, 2010 at 16:42

    They look hotter than you

  4. Primal Toad on August 23, 2010 at 16:56

    This is ridiculous. You are right Richard, there seems to be less and less of these studies that prove nothing. But, could it simply be that we look for information that supports our beliefs?

  5. Shantel on August 23, 2010 at 16:57

    “Oh, and Dr. Holly Phillips? Complete dipshit who should know better. Plus, she’s a fat ass and she’s a fat ass because she knows shit about nutrition.”

    That just made me LOL! Not sure why….It was just funny!

  6. Dave, RN on August 23, 2010 at 17:08

    Aw come on, tell us how you REALLY feel.
    At work we’re in the process of re-writing some of our heart disease teaching. I wonder if they’ll let me slip in that saturated fat and red meat is good for you and to avoid low fat diets with vegetable oil and hearthealthywholegrains? I’ll at least get a good laugh out of it when I try!

  7. Austin on August 23, 2010 at 17:12

    Actual conversation from a few days back:

    XXX: I’ve gained another 3 kg. I’m going avoid meat and eggs on weekdays and go jogging.

    Me: Meat and eggs are not making you fat. Its the sugar and crap you are eating too much of.


  8. Lute Nikoley on August 23, 2010 at 17:43

    And these are the kind of nincompoops who say they are trying to keep us healthy. One thought came to mind was that the study may have be true, but they didn’t tell you about the ton of sugar and grain they ate over that same period of time and all the processed garbage, margarine and vegetable oil.

    I think I am going to stay away from docs, except for the annual so-called physical, but at least you get a blood test which might be worth something. Or when something is broken. Come to think of it, that’s the way i’ve been doing it for most of my life.

  9. Tony K on August 23, 2010 at 18:47

    Wow. That was an IQ sucking interview. It reminds me of that scene in princess bride where they turn the torture device on full.

    BTW, did you see the JAMA commentary. I summarized it at emotions for engineers.


    • Richard Nikoley on August 23, 2010 at 18:53

      “IQ Sucking.” excellent expression that I will henceforth try to remember to steal every chance I get.

      And now I’ll go check out your post.

  10. Samantha on August 23, 2010 at 19:17

    Just a couple of dumb bitties.

  11. Bill Strahan on August 23, 2010 at 19:47

    I wrote a somewhat tongue in cheek post on relationships, and the difference between assocation, correlation, and causation. I was quite proud when my teenage daughter watched the video you have linked here and I paused it and asked what kind of information they were basing this on. She responded immediately with “correlation”. And that spawned a quick conversation about confounding variables.

    Only downside (or upside in my opinion) is this rational thinking really makes life hard on their public school teacher who want them to fit into a box and accept the educational pablum they’re being fed. They don’t swallow it.

  12. Christian on August 23, 2010 at 21:09

    Direct and to the point! Awesome post.

  13. Darrin on August 24, 2010 at 19:07

    Well, I certainly am hopeful that the “plant-based diet” fad is on the wane, but would be lying if I thought the mainstream is getting on board just yet. Far too many people have too deeply entrenched of beliefs regarding this that it will be a long time before their voices are drowned out by more reasonable ones.

    The best thing about this whole Paleo/Primal movement is that, for the first time since George McGovern’s Dietary Guidelines a whole lot of people are getting together and calling out that the emperor has no clothes. This is where paradigm shifts happen, and I’m really excited to see where this goes from here.

  14. Elisabeth on August 24, 2010 at 07:12

    Agreed, stupid and not news. I didn’t get it that Phillips is a fatass, though. I do wear corrective lenses, but they usually do the job, and I don’t see the fat. Maybe her suit’s too tight. Maybe you’re referring to the fat content between her ears.

  15. Sarah Madden on August 24, 2010 at 09:23

    Richard have you seen this stupidity?


    Good god, doing a trial on sugar consumption and yet controlling for glycemic load..WTF??

    • Richard Nikoley on August 24, 2010 at 12:33

      Wonder who funded that study.

      • Sarah Madden on August 24, 2010 at 13:47

        I’ll give you three, no one guess…

  16. Lars H on August 24, 2010 at 14:20

    5 oz of red meat a week! Glad this study is bogus.

  17. lol on August 25, 2010 at 03:27

    She’s not fat. I guess you’re one of THOSE men.

    • washington on August 27, 2010 at 00:23

      Yeah, no kidding Richard. There’s a lot you could say to dis the woman but being overweight (or a “fat ass”) is not one of them.

      • Richard Nikoley on August 27, 2010 at 00:45

        Oh reallly, wash? Well fuck off, because you’re wrong. As wrong as you can be.

      • Bonnie on August 30, 2010 at 19:19

        You don’t think ‘fat’ is a pretty subjective descriptor for a person? Not trying to pick a fight, but curious.

      • Richard Nikoley on August 31, 2010 at 00:39

        No Bonnie. We’re pretty faking clear about what fat is, ’round theses parts.

      • Bonnie on August 31, 2010 at 08:51

        Oh. You were joking then?

        I’m bird-boned and 15 lbs underweight, so most people seem pretty hefty to me. But I don’t think there’s anything fat about Holly Philips, though she does have an unfortunate liking for bulky suit jackets. I estimate her BMI at barely 20.

        My boyfriend describes Marilyn Monroe as ‘fat’ (if he didn’t like ’em skinny we wouldn’t be together). I understand this is just his preference but there’s no way she was ‘overweight’ in any sense when it comes to appearance or health, either.

  18. Fred Hahn on August 25, 2010 at 07:11

    The interesting thing is I’m certain these people eat low fat. They really believe the dogma. Many people are afflicted with the inability to think deeply. Some are highly intelligent people. But possessing high intelligence does not mean you’ll think critically.

  19. Zach on August 28, 2010 at 11:36

    “this study was done by the National Institute for Health, not by anybody with any alterior motive”

    lol that was the most idiotic line of the entire video. just like the FDA has no alterior motive in approving statin drugs, despite the billions they make from the pharmaceutical companies. or how the American Heart Association has no alterior motive approving Cocoa Puffs as “heart healthy”, despite the $80 million they make every year giving off of these labels. nope, the National Institute for Health has no motive whatsoever other than their complete selflessness and altruism

    • gallier2 on August 28, 2010 at 11:42

      Just for info, it’s “ulterior” not alterior.

  20. DePaw on August 31, 2010 at 08:22

    Anyone else lol at the logo at the ned ‘fastest growing’ is right…

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