Beautiful Anarchy: I Had A Public Dispute. She Asked Nicely. Resolved

Way way back, among the many other ways I’ve tried to drill into heads in my Internet activities, I had an idea one day.

…When you engage in political and social discourse, and you do it enough, you’ll find an odd thing. People argue about the most effective or practical way to force somebody else to behave in accordance with their own values and senses of propriety. I’m not talking about self defense, here. I’m talking about humans going about their days of life.

As a result, America is the “land of the free” with more laws, statutes, regulations, cops, and people in jail than any country on earth, including the “unfree” ones. America is more accurately a pay-to-play country, but that’s a subject for a different day.

Lots of you saw this, and lots commented: For Better or Worse: Honesty Log Time; Grace Liu and the History with “Paleo King.”

Grace called me on the phone today out of the blue. Conversation got immediately off on a wrong foot and I hung up. She called back. We started again.

It took an hour. We both still disagree about tons of stuff and completely disagree on our own takes, in terms of personal justification over various ways things played out. Reconciliation on everything isn’t worth it for either of us, probably impossible in any case. But, a curious thing happens when each party lets the other go off in rant, shuts up and listens for a while. It’s tantamount to agreement, per se:

  1. I care.
  2. You care.
  3. I care what you think.
  4. You care what I think.
  5. I care that you’ll be OK.
  6. You care that I’ll be OK.
  7. I wish you the best.
  8. You wish me the best.

If the foregoing were not true, conversations like that would not even happen. …Just to make something clear: the “sexy” talk Grace and I engaged in, that I included in my post, has been off the table for a couple of years at least, completely.

To round out my point of this post, Grace asked nicely. She didn’t threaten legal action. She didn’t threaten a tit-tat (in fact, explicitly said she’d not go there no matter what). She asked that I take down the post. I rarely agree to anything without some consideration. My demand was that she read the comments, particularly the one by Gemma, and take some heart in that. She did that to my satisfaction.

I further asked that we all focus on clarification and getting more understanding out there on gut bug stuff (can’t recall how I phrased that, you get the idea). There’s no way I can hold her to any of this, but I said my piece. I’m glad she called, I’m glad we hashed out a bit. I’m glad she asked nicely. I’m glad it’s not hanging out there forever.

Anyway, there you go. Always remember that when you have disputes with other human beings, both people can ask nicely. Both people can be gracious. Both people can get a little over themselves and let the other vent a little. Let anarchy begin at home.

The human condition is one where we’re really all  just opposable thumbs, all the while regarding ourselves as pianists. — Richard Nikoley

Update: Well, the truce didn’t last long. I have permanently severed all ties with Ms. Liu:

Fear of Raw Potato Starch Ingestion is Probably Irrational

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  1. anarch on December 10, 2014 at 17:32

    You and Grace might be happy with the post taken down but am not. I am livid! How dare you besmirch the purity of your blog this way!

  2. Jed on December 10, 2014 at 18:07

    I feel very lucky to have read that piece. I like very much your writing style.

  3. Marc on December 10, 2014 at 18:14


    With this post you have put a bold huge exlamation mark athe end of Free The Animal!

    I always tell all my kids that in regards to them I have ONE and one responsibility only, and that is to send them off into the world as RESPECTFUL human beings.

    Respectful in exactyl the ways you so elonquantly summarise in this post.

    Thank you for your continous contributions to my development.

    I love reading and disagreeing with some of your sheit, and loving golden nuggets like these.
    Thanks man, I mean it.

    • Richard Nikoley on December 10, 2014 at 19:21


      I think that if everybody loves everything I write or, everybody hates everything I write, then I have a problem.

      Passion is dynamic. It’s a recipe that requires secret amounts of both love and hate.

      Just my fancy clever story.

    • EF on December 11, 2014 at 06:48

      “You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.” Winston Churchill

  4. steve+W on December 10, 2014 at 22:14

    Dude, you took down the one of your most compelling posts ev-ah. wtf?

  5. Steven on December 11, 2014 at 00:34

    It is like we are sisters… I read the post and did not want to comment until something happened.

    It happened…

    Nothing like laying it bare. It is always interesting to see what happens when everything gets sussed out.

    Well done fellow human.

    You really should change this blog to Free the Human. Most people are animals as I see it. A lot of people come here and learn their humanity.

    World=Better place.

  6. Starch+lvr on December 11, 2014 at 06:07

    Good move by both.

    Even classier move taking the post down.

  7. sdiguana on December 11, 2014 at 06:34

    I think this is one of those posts that are better for people’s health than PS, Paleo or any other food/exercise item. Fix relationships, be cordial, be honest, and the chips fall in place. I suspect relationships have as much or even more to do with our health than food anyway.

    Kudos to both of you for a Graceful (har har) resolution! :)

  8. Tallulah Wolf-Angel on December 11, 2014 at 10:10

    I am so glad.

  9. Gina on December 11, 2014 at 13:33

    This reminds me of what I’m always saying to my cats: “What the hell goes on around here when I’m gone!?”

    At least I here I don’t have to repair a lamp and remove a stuffed mouse from the fruit bowl this time.

    • gabkad on December 11, 2014 at 14:30

      Sounds familiar Gina. I tell mine “I don’t expect you to love one another, just get along.”

      Little s*it heads.

  10. Richard Nikoley on December 13, 2014 at 15:53

    Update: Well, the truce didn’t last long. I have permanently severed all ties with Ms. Liu:

    Fear of Raw Potato Starch Ingestion is Probably Irrational

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