For What It’s Worth

There’s Sumthin’ Happenin’ Here

I just got my first royalty check from Hyperink. Nope, not riches, but not chump change either. Thank you; and the promotion where you can buy one and give away five for free is going on indefinitely. So hurry, because I might get definitive. Apparently I was their top selling book of all titles in January and February, and have been invited to write another. What shall it be? I rather think it should roughly be about how pointless, stupid, and a fucking waste of time voting and agitating over politics is…along with sundry related matters. We’ll see.

Ah, what to blog? Well, this has been bouncing around in my head a few days now. While a whole bunch just hate my more politically oriented posts like the other day—because there’s not enough paleo dietary shit out there—I really just don’t give a fuck. Go shell out $3.99 for my book and shut up.

…I’ve always loved the tune and lyrics to Buffalo Springfield’s For What It’s Worth. Here, take a listen, just barely over 2 minutes and then stay tuned for news.

Well, I’m sure some of you aficionados know this already, but because this song has been so long associated with the Viet Nam war, used in many films, and just hearing it seems to conjure images of UH-1 Hueys hovering over rice paddies, I never really gave much of a thought as to whether it was written with “Nam” in mind, etc., etc.

The other day I was hearing it on the radio and for some reason—it’s probably the moderate starch in my diet—I stopped to think about a couple of lines. They struck me as odd, given my impression of the song’s theme. I came back, let my fingers do the walking…and Google the talking…and all of a sudden, I had the real scoop.

The song was written by guitarist Stephen Stills, but not about anti-war gatherings; rather, youth gatherings protesting anti-loitering laws, and the closing of the West Hollywood nightclub Pandora’s Box.

According to Neil Young in his book, Long May You Run, quoting Stills:

“I had had something kicking around in my head. I wanted to write something about the kids that were on the line over in Southeast Asia that didn’t have anything to do with the device of this mission, which was unraveling before our eyes. Then we came down to Sunset from my place on Topanga with a guy – I can’t remember his name – and there’s a funeral for a bar, one of the favorite spots for high school and UCLA kids to go and dance and listen to music.

Officials decided to call out the official riot police because there’s three thousand kids sort of standing out in the street; there’s no looting, there’s no nothing. It’s everybody having a hang to close this bar. A whole company of black and white LAPD in full Macedonian battle array in shields and helmets and all that, and they’re lined up across the street, and I just went ‘Whoa! Why are they doing this?’ There was no reason for it. I went back to Topanga, and that other song turned into ‘For What It’s Worth,’ and it took as long to write as it took me to settle on the changes and write the lyrics down. It all came as a piece, and it took about fifteen minutes.”

So, with that in mind, read with close attention. When I did, I was amazed it hadn’t been so clear to me in the decades I’ve been listening, loving, never getting tired of hearing that song.

There’s something happening here
What it is ain’t exactly clear
There’s a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware
I think it’s time we stop, children, what’s that sound
Everybody look what’s going down
There’s battle lines being drawn
Nobody’s right if everybody’s wrong
Young people speaking their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind
I think it’s time we stop, hey, what’s that sound
Everybody look what’s going down
What a field-day for the heat
A thousand people in the street
Singing songs and carrying signs
Mostly say, hooray for our side
It’s time we stop, hey, what’s that sound
Everybody look what’s going down
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you’re always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away
We better stop, hey, what’s that sound
Everybody look what’s going down
Stop, hey, what’s that sound
Everybody look what’s going down
Stop, now, what’s that sound
Everybody look what’s going down
Stop, children, what’s that sound
Everybody look what’s going down

To wrap it up, take a look at this. The Hollywood Palace variety show, 1967. Buffalo Springfield’s performance begins with Stills and For What It’s Worth, but just wait for Neil to take over.

Those were the days.


  1. Steve on March 16, 2012 at 01:21

    Thanks for bringing Buffalo Springfield and “For What it’s Worth”, back to my attention. …. I’ve been revisiting my musical roots and somehow missed revisiting this.

    And the Hollywood Palace clip… GOLDEN! Thanks!

    A group that I have ‘rediscovered’ is The Animals and specifically Eric Burdon…. this is one of my favorite Eric songs…. with War,

    “Spill the Wine”.

    • Richard Nikoley on March 16, 2012 at 07:28

      I outta dig through The Animals and find a blog theme song. Maybe it’ll help me not be misunderstood. ;)

      • Steve on March 16, 2012 at 08:40

        Yes… WHEW! … I thought it might be the House of the Rising Son… I mean sun. :)

      • marie on March 16, 2012 at 09:13

        Oh Lord…! ;-)

      • Geoff on March 16, 2012 at 18:16

        Skip the Animals, how ’bout “Break on Through”???

  2. Alexandra on March 16, 2012 at 02:49

    I drove to Philadelphia 8-10 years ago to see Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young…The whole thing was great but Neil Young totally stole the show! Still got it after all these years. So much good stuff on YouTube, I need to explore more. Thanks Richard.

  3. Mick Hamblen on March 16, 2012 at 18:29

    My favorite version

  4. mark on March 16, 2012 at 06:01

    So I think what you mean is that moderate starchy carbs are ok – correct?

  5. rob on March 16, 2012 at 06:44

    I think a book on how to cook Paleo stuff, for people who can’t cook, would be good. There are plenty of books out there for people who CAN cook, guys pay a recipe writer to put them together.

  6. Matthew Allen Milelr on March 16, 2012 at 06:57

    “I rather think it should roughly be about how pointless, stupid, and a fucking waste of time voting and agitating over politics is…along with sundry related matters.”

    I second this.

    • Matthew Allen Miller on March 16, 2012 at 07:32

      At the risk of being spammy, I did, coincidentally, write this blog post yesterday on the place of politics in a happy and healthy paleo lifestyle:

      • Richard Nikoley on March 16, 2012 at 07:58

        Good job, Matthew. Part 1 as well.

      • Matthew Miller on March 16, 2012 at 10:30

        Thanks for reading! Glad you liked. I wouldn’t be offended if you tweeted it out, if you want. A lot of my motivation to start thinking in terms of the “human zoo” is thanks to this blog, in addition to MovNat and Morris’s book.

      • Richard Nikoley on March 16, 2012 at 11:01

        Will do, prefaced with “copycat.” :)

        Seriously, I’m glad others are expanding The Human Animal beyond just food.

      • marie on March 16, 2012 at 11:33

        If you get a chance, can you help me out with this ?
        I really enjoy the idea that someone can turn their back on the zoo/cage/prison, walk away as it were by not participating, makes me feel almost peaceful …except : isn’t the whole idea that we can do that based on the idea that ‘the system’ is self-regulating, due to economic forces? In other words, we gained ‘freedoms’ and a lot of wealth because this produces more wealth for our jailers.
        Only, isn’t that putting the cart before the horse? I mean, doesn’t that mean that our jailers were somehow wise to foresee this and ‘allow’ us these freedoms?
        I agree greater wealth at the top is the Outcome of these freedoms (basic psychology) but isn’t it more likely that in the west we started to get these freedoms because the kings at the time were afraid that they too would suffer madame guillotine, a fear brought to a peak later with the russian disaster?
        And if the powers that be are in fact not wise (tongue in cheek) and were simply responding to fear of the masses, doesn’t that mean they can easily let greed destroy this system (even though it is vastly more profitable at the top) ?

  7. ICG on March 16, 2012 at 07:05

    If you really want to sell books, you should beat 180 to the punch with the “Step off the scale and stick up the thermometer” approach. Look at some comments from a recent thread…who wouldn’t fall for a diet with these testimonials?

    “I would try the pizza and ice cream test, which is to fill up on salty pizza, follow it up with a pint of ice cream, and drink no fluids with it.”

    “So I ate a butter croissant, a mixed meal for lunch (with fish, I think), a cupcake, and a bag of salted pretzels. By 4 pm, the thermostat was cranked back up. As I recover the ‘good guys’ in the gut, I have continued to eat whatever looks yummy. :-)”

    “Stuff with carbs! Like white bread with BUTTER (oh, so much butter), ice cream, pasta (preferably lasagna.)”

    • Darin on March 16, 2012 at 10:25

      Add me to the list of testimonials.

      As a 41 year old athlete who limited himself to only whole foods (low-carb) with little to no sugar for the last 5 years I could not figure out why after 4 hours of sleep I would wake up constantly, usually having to urinate like a race horse. The prostate was fine and I tried to not drink liquids in the evening.I hadn’t slept a solid 5+ hours for years.

      I’ve always read the 180 blog fascinated by the unusual recommendations so it was basically for entertainment purposes.

      Recently one of the blogs mentioned that the blogger (Matt Stone) had clients who were low-carbers who did not sleep well and constantly had to urinate due to — these are his words — low blood sugar due to the lack of sugar in their diet which makes them urinate, so he suggested ice cream before bed and he reported they were finally able to sleep all night.

      After 5 years I am willing to try anything for a solid night of sleep, and since ice cream is my favorite food that I’ve rarely eaten for many years I thought I would give it a try.

      I started eating almost a pint of hagen daz every night. Now a month has passed and after lacking sleep for 5 years I am thrilled to say that I sleep 7+ hours every night and do not have the strong urge to urinate upon waking.

      I now approach nutrition with a much more open mind.

      • ICG on March 16, 2012 at 10:51

        I’m glad you’re sleeping better. So what else do you eat–still whole foods and the pint before bedtime? Or is the pizza/croissants/donuts/heck, let’s just hit the buffet and eat everything approach?

        I’m not ridiculing you, but 180’s ever-changing/vague approach and mixed messages in general. Smattered among the “I love eating XXX food” comments are a few sombering admissions like “I’ve gained 30 pounds while RRARFing,” “This is fun but my clothes are getting really tight,” etc. Besides sleeping better, less urination, higher temps, etc., what else is going on with all these “eat to appetite” folks? And what’s the long-term plan? Is it salty pizza + ice cream forever? Is it back to a mostly whole foods diet after you’ve eaten to appetite for months and gone back to all of your bad habits?

        Seriously, I’m just wondering. No one is discussing this on 180. I guess it’s a lot more fun to report all the fun uninhibited eating where nothing but water is restricted.

      • Richard Nikoley on March 16, 2012 at 10:59



        How about trying a backed potato with butter, sour cream, and bacon bits before bed and see if you get a similar result.

        I think quality ice cream is not such a bad deal as an indulgence, but it’s a lot of sugar on a chronic basis. On the other hand, if it’s a whole cream quality ice cream, perhaps the fat mediates that.

      • Zach on March 16, 2012 at 12:31

        You never know Richard, the sugar may be the key to his improvement.

        Carbs, they can work wonders.

      • Richard Nikoley on March 16, 2012 at 12:50

        I don’t discount the possibility.

        But from where did he come from? Ie, is sugar merely a medicine in the context?

        Ok, I’ll grant that sugar could potentially be a medicine just as a lot of things cam

        So do you want to stay on sugar your whole life?

        Did you try a real food diet with moderate starch and plenty of brain glucose available?

      • jay jay on March 16, 2012 at 12:59

        Hmm. I’ve been having that problem too. It’s like clockwork, every night between 3:30 and 4:00 AM, I’ve got to go WEEEEE! like that annoying little pig in the insurance commercials.

        Before I upped my carbs in general, I was also having lots of muscle cramps at night. Jaminet recommends a small amount of carbs before bed for that, and sure enough, the cramps went away when I did that. I’ve been eating 3-4 rice crackers with cheese (not to start another cheese war, but I can handle my cheese…). That’s only about 8-10 g of carb. I don’t do that every night though.

        One of these evenings, I’ll up the cracker dosage, and see what happens.

      • Richard Nikoley on March 16, 2012 at 13:08

        I’d admonish folks to stop apologizing for little bits of carbs.

      • jay jay on March 16, 2012 at 13:15

        I didn’t mean to come across that way. I’m actually eating about 150-200g a day now, and I’m liking it (versus 40-50g in my “true” low carb days).

        I just wanted to point out that 8-10g right before bed wasn’t enough to stop the urination urge for me.

      • Zach on March 16, 2012 at 13:25

        All good points, Richard.

        One should probably start with the least amount of pure sucrose in the diet to start with and work with whole foods first. I have told you my diet before but my carb load is almost entirely sucrose from fruit and lactose. Complex carbs just dont work like simple carbs do for me. Im talking 3-400g a day btw, its a lot easier for me using diary and fruit/juice to get them and the results have been a lot better then on a complex carb based diet. I still stay away from any food that does not come with nutrients (table sugar).

        Jay Jay, waking up and peeing at night is a classic low carb symptom. Try more carbs throughout the day tailored to your fitness level. Also i have heard a lot of good things about some dairy (ice cream) or milk with honey before bed, you could give that a try, add a little salt as well, it will help with sleep.

        And i hope there aren’t still people who are worried about dairy!

      • jay jay on March 16, 2012 at 13:53

        Well, with the cheese, I am getting some highly concentrated dairy fat (and I often make my own cheese, so I can really dose up the fat). Plus a lot of salt. And that did stop my cramps, literally overnight. Not the peeing though.

        I’m pretty sure most of the lactose is gone from the cheese though, so maybe lactose and fructose are key. And I have been avoiding fructose lately like it is a poison.

        Thanks for the advice. I’ll keep tweaking.

      • Zach on March 16, 2012 at 20:45

        The dose makes the poison. Fructose from fruit can be really beneficial for filling liver glycogen and it is a good balance to glucose, thats why its packaged as sucrose.

      • ICG on March 18, 2012 at 20:45

        The latest over at 180: “I need to make more money to support my eating habits. … 195-205 lb in early december. 230 lb now. BOB vs FOOD.”

        I’m still trying to figure out what the end game is. Get rid of low-carb symptoms AND put all the weight you lost back on…and then some?

      • Richard Nikoley on March 19, 2012 at 00:16

        Had no idea it was actually that bad.

        Well, if you look at my posting history, I always thought he was a very bad influence. It happens, if yor’re clever, poor, and have no morals..

  8. Jeff on March 16, 2012 at 07:06

    Thanks for posting this. I just love those old F hole arch top guitars they were using back then. Been a big CSN&Y fan for a long time also and hearing their beginning, Buffalo Springfield, is great also.

  9. Ian on March 16, 2012 at 07:51

    GREAT song. I started reading the post, then skipped ahead to the video and listened through because the anticipation was killing me–will read post eventually after I finish a 60s/70s rock montage.

  10. marie on March 16, 2012 at 08:07

    Yum : ” I was raised by the praise of a fan who said I upset her”.
    Keep upsetting us Richard, please!, and write that (pointless, of course) book :-)

  11. jim on March 16, 2012 at 08:28

    I saw an interview where someone asked Neil Young why BS broke up, since they were such a ground breaking band. His answer” “Yeah, everyone says we were so groundbreaking, but the truth is, we weren’t making any money.”

  12. ICG on March 16, 2012 at 08:32

    To put a Neil Young spin on my 180-ripoff book idea, you could make a cover with a giant thermometer and refractometer. Below it is a very overweight lady “eating to appetite” ice cream, Cinnabons, pizza, etc. on a beach.

    Title: Out of the Case, Into the (insert your favorite term for the place that a thermometer goes)
    Subtitle: Hello Cowgirl in the Sand

  13. BabyGirl on March 16, 2012 at 08:39

    Every time I get tempted to eat a Krispy Kreme doughnut I sing to my self “The Needle and the Damage Done.” ‘Cause for me, carbs are sort of like the big H.

    • Tom on March 16, 2012 at 09:03

      Same sort of thing here. Except I go ahead and eat that Krispy Kreme to the refrains of, “F*@king Up”

      • BabyGirl on March 18, 2012 at 20:31

        I sort of feel sorry for people who don’t have Krispy Kreme’s. To me, it would be worth a trip south just to get one.

    • marie on March 16, 2012 at 09:11

      Yup, ditto. Until I started “a potato a day” many months ago …it really seems to keep the donuts away, spontaneously.

      • BabyGirl on March 18, 2012 at 20:30

        Richard has been a bad influence on me. I had some new potatoes in some green beans and then later that night when I sent to get doughnuts at Krispy Kreme for my son’s work crew, I ordered one hot glazed doughnut for myself.

        Ate that puppy while it it was hot and dang it was good!

      • Richard Nikoley on March 19, 2012 at 00:12

        You’re on your own. Don’t blame me.

        I haven’t had a dognut in years. Years.

      • BabyGirl on March 21, 2012 at 14:00

        But you were preaching potatoes and the potato made me want a doughnut!

  14. Rick Lucas on March 16, 2012 at 10:34

    I’m sorry Richard, but man, I just don’t get it. I read those lyrics with close attention but it’s still a muddled mess to me. Who is he singing to? The loiterers? The po-po and “officials”? Is it pure navel gazing? That song just sounds whiney and self indulgent in my Gen-X ears. Boomers been telling me my whole life how great hippy music was but it just makes me want to smash something. I guess you had to be there.

    No hard feelings, eh? No accounting for matters of taste and all.

    • Richard Nikoley on March 16, 2012 at 11:04


      No hard feelings at all. chocolate & vanilla, as they say.

      While I’ve always liked the tune, I’m sure that nostalgia has a part to play in it for a lot of us. I happen to think that the 70s and 80s were the best time to be alive in America. Many reasons for that. Perhaps I’ll blog about it sometime.

    • Geoff on March 16, 2012 at 17:59

      I hear you, Rick. My Gen-X mind associates “[o]fficials decided to call out the official riot police because there’s three thousand kids sort of standing out in the street” with Black Flag, not Buffalo Springfield.

      Still, I admit that “For What It’s Worth” is an iconic song of it’s time and a propos of today. I respect that. In ten years my kids will be breaking my balls for listening to “Damaged,” so what goes around comes around. I’ll get mine eventually.

      Richard, will you do a music post on The Doors?

      • Richard Nikoley on March 17, 2012 at 00:52

        When the film opened I lived in France and that Saturday, I either drove or took the train to Nice, the closest place to see it on VO (version originale).

        I’ll think about it.

  15. Uncephalized on March 16, 2012 at 10:50

    I love, love, love that song. Always have (and I’m 24, not from “that” generation at all, not even close!). I think that song is a piece of art.

    And the explanation makes it make sense, finally.

  16. Richard Nikoley on March 16, 2012 at 11:54

    “I mean, doesn’t that mean that our jailers were somehow wise to foresee this and ‘allow’ us these freedoms?”

    Bread & circuses, Marie.

    Certainly, democracy is a weird animal in that it marginally promotes some level of prosperity for both host and parasite. The parasite wants you to believe your prosperity is linked to its parasiticism, using all the various political ploys.

    My position comes more from principle–the parasites have no moral right; whereas, someone like Sean looks at the practical circumstances and is willing for societal evolution to take its course.

    But I’m an individualist. I don’t give a shit about anything but my own values, so there’s no value in it for me to agitate, and my time is best spent seeing to myself, friends, loved ones…and in terms of things like this blog: to advocate for removing the life’s blood from the parasites.

    What is that life’s blood? Most fundamentally, your attention.

    What if they held an election an no one showed up?

    • marie on March 16, 2012 at 12:17

      O.k., I think I’m getting closer… but “What if they held an election and no one showed up?” – well yes, isn’t that what they want? With enough bread and circuses and a continually decreasing education, that seems to be the aim. Keep us distracted and stupid so we don’t cut their heads off.
      I grew up with the idea that the way to remind them that we still can (aka saying : “stuff your hollywood/bollywood, coke, or “no child left behind”) is to vote, or has someone thought of another way? (not rhetorical).

      My other problem is the idea we can walk way from a prison. That whole analogy fails at the start. Either it’s a prison (or a caged farm, ala stefan molineux..I think) or we can walk away.
      I’m an individualist too, but I just don’t see government as a prison, more like a cancer/incurable disease which I can treat to make less painful or I can leave alone so it kills me sooner.
      Come to think of it, your parasite analogy works well here. :-)

      • Richard Nikoley on March 16, 2012 at 12:33

        Had no idea you knew who Moleniex was. Points for that.

        I look at it in principle and practical. Principle in terms of my blogging, passing on my views, etc. Practical in the sense I owe no one anything, except what I’ve agreed to. I don’t want to squander my life trying to “change the system.” The system will change as the complex organism it is. The only tiny little thing I can do is try to speak to minds, one mind at a time if that’s what it takes, and the rest will be history, however it shakes out.

        In the meantime, I’m going to try to capture as much of a life for myself, friends, family, blog readers as I possibly can and do as much as I can to steal clear of and ignore all the rest of it.

      • marie on March 16, 2012 at 12:52

        Mais oui, hometown boy (in so far as McGill U, anyway).
        So yes, I think I see, this principle and practice may be another way, but I am just too pessimistic, perhaps.
        Not trying in any way to change the system, just keep it from eating me(family/friends) alive. Family experience you see, dictatorship can happen in the blink of an eye even in a country that venerated democracy above all other ideals/principles, having invented it (o.k, slaves and all). They did shake it off, with much sacrifice by many, including my parents. So it’s not good to let it get to that point (I know, they are headed that way again right this minute – lessons Not learned).

      • Matthew Allen Miller on March 16, 2012 at 15:47

        Yes, while I think it’s fun to theorize about how to get from here (the current system) to there (a freer society), in the end we’re better off as individuals making the best of our own lives in this context. Getting stressed and angry about it, and wasting time and energy trying to change it, is precisely what it means to be caged up. To be victims. But not letting it get to us, and instead living well, is the best way that we can escape the zoo, or free our animal, so to speak.

      • marie on March 16, 2012 at 15:53

        I know Matthew, I agree with the sentiment, I just don’t see it working-out in practice.

      • Richard Nikoley on March 16, 2012 at 17:56

        Working out in practice for whom? Are you admitting to ineptitude?

      • marie on March 16, 2012 at 18:18

        Why Richard, lionhearted much?

      • marie on March 16, 2012 at 18:26

        Not trying to change any system, just behaving in the only known way, up to now, that prevents it from getting to the point where the only choice is to change it or live in daily fear. Anything else is a new social experiment – brave new world?

      • Richard Nikoley on March 17, 2012 at 00:57


        I haven’t a clue of what you meant to say to me up there. But whatever it was, I wish you the best with it.

      • marie on March 17, 2012 at 05:53

        :-) I wish you the best too Richard, always. Not only do you write great posts, you’re amazing at engaging the debate in the comments, IMO. Thank you, very very much.

  17. Mary in FL on March 16, 2012 at 17:55

    This song was playing a couple nights ago on a TV music channel. I realized it was one of those songs that gives me “sort of” warm fuzzies – at least the kind that allows me to remember almost all the words — yet isn’t exactly a happy song.

  18. Samuel on March 16, 2012 at 23:10

    I don’t think it is either right or wrong to be apolitical in general. Being the way I am I think it is necessary to be at least a little bit political but, for those same reasons I think it is an individual decision. That is a lot of words to say not a lot. Since, whether we like it or not, we live in a politicized society, we should be paying attention to what decisions are being made about our lives, we should know what sides (there will always be a diversity of sides that we, as individuals, will take that are in concert with and in opposition to those of others with whom we may most of the time be in agreement with) we align ourselves with. I find it difficult to side with anyone who is or wants to be a political leader but I have to admit that, under the present system, some one of them will be leaders and exercise authority over me. I have three realistic options: join the system and vote in an attempt to influence this power structure in the direction I think it should trend toward, vote or at least participate in the system to change it to better reflect how I (again “I”) think it should function or absent myself from all of it and allow it to rule me while I pretend it has neither power nor authority to decide anything. I like the third option because it does not include my deciding for anyone else but it also doesn’t prevent anyone else from choosing to band together to decide for me. Isn’t the second option, that of participating but still working against the present system, the better choice? For an example, isn’t supporting the candidacy of someone like Ron Paul for President, though an acknowledgment of and acceptance of the present system, a valid protest against that system? Isn’t it better to put your support behind someone whose proven record is one of dismantling the encroachments of the system, a system you have consistently railed against, than to withhold support because you find politics odious?

  19. Peggy The Primal Parent on March 17, 2012 at 06:35

    I’d like you to write a book about what it means to be a man, for what it’s worth…

    • rob on March 17, 2012 at 13:46

      To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.

      • marie on March 17, 2012 at 14:11

        Don’t forget about taking their horses too…if you’re Genghis Khan, the model barbarian. :-)

  20. Nigel Kinbrum on March 17, 2012 at 07:44

    You’ve done Finance.
    Diet & Nutrition.
    Food porn.
    What other subjects do you know a decent amount about that are worth blogging?

    • Sean on March 17, 2012 at 08:44

      The Byzantine Empire!!!

      There’s a classic comedy sketch by National Lampoon where a guy has a radio call-in show about the Byzantine Empire called Byz Talk.

      • marie on March 17, 2012 at 11:39

        Hmmm, synthesizing some of these topics…..=Philosophy !

        Monty Phythons’ -“International Philosophy”, philosophers’ soccer match :

      • Sean on March 18, 2012 at 06:07

        Ha ha, I’ve never seen that before.

        “Beckenbaur, obviously a bit of a surprise there.”

        “He accused Confucius of having no free will, and Confucius, he say, ‘Name go in book.'”

      • marie on March 18, 2012 at 07:57

        :-) :-)

  21. Wolfstriked on March 17, 2012 at 07:58

    Wow Nikoley,I did not think your stick in the mud mind could swoop down to such primitive levels.Did you get your medical prescription recently filled? LOL just kidding man.Lots of songs get taken wrongly.I have always said that while I love modern day music videos I feel they remove the imagination instead filling our minds with images.Growing up with Black Sabbath,Led,Pink Floyd etc was wonderful experience due to my own mind making the pictures.

    • Richard Nikoley on March 17, 2012 at 10:44

      I like to listen to Pink Floyd in a dark room with my eyes closed.

      • Wolfstriked on March 17, 2012 at 15:59

        Hehe nothing better in the world….

  22. Sean on March 17, 2012 at 08:02

    Officials decided to call out the official riot police because there’s three thousand kids sort of standing out in the street; there’s no looting, there’s no nothing.

    I saw something similar happen when I lived in Hollywood, this would’ve been around 1988. It was typical for a lot of people to show up in costumes and stuff and walk around Hollywood Blvd on Halloween. The street itself was blocked off but people weren’t allowed to walk in the street and there were motorcycle cops literally running down anyone who stepped into the street–the cops I saw in my year in Hollywood were some of the most fascist thugs I’ve ever encountered (not coincidentally, they were cowards who were frightened to mess with actual scary criminals, which I also witnessed). Finally, after a lot of provocation, someone threw a bottle, not at a cop just threw it, and at the sound of breaking glass they called in the riot police and the helicopters. Man, LA cops sure love their fucking helicopters. Once the riot police got going it was pretty ugly. A friend of mine stuck his head out the door to see if things had quieted down and got smashed by a truncheon in the face by a cop who happened to be standing right there, he later had to get stitches.

    Just another experience on the road to me becoming a libertarian. I’m a big fan of the rule of law, and what I saw that night definitely wasn’t the rule of law.

  23. Nate on March 18, 2012 at 06:21

    Just finished your book last night (which I thoroughly enjoyed) and am now trying to get my in laws, who are here visiting our new twin girls and us in Germany, to read it. I think it may be hopeless, however. They are basically Fox News drones who are completely sold on the ‘God Bless the USA and nobody else’ philosophy, along with believing politically right-leaning Americans are infallible. I also think they believe that Hungry Man dinners are the crowning achievement of modern science.

    How about a book called “Imagine”, spelling out just how kick-ass our soldiers could be if they were actually fed a healthy diet. Just walking by a DFAC or any of the fast food restaurants on post makes me want to barf, the smell of rancid vegetable oil and mutant meat filling the air. I’ve talked to dietitians on a couple of the posts here in Germany, and they are at a loss on what to do. Eating healthy just isn’t a priority, and hardly any effort is made to educate the soldiers on how to make good food choices. Perhaps a good diet could promote a bit more mental stability in some of these people, too. Hmmmm……

    By the way – Go Beavers! (OSU BS ’98, MS ’00)

  24. Paul C on March 21, 2012 at 12:19

    Question on the Hyperink 5-free promotion. When going to the 5-free offer page, you are presented with a page that has 5 spots for 5 email addresses. The first time I went to the page I had two very interested friends, so I sent it to them right way. Later I had more interested friends, and found that I couldn’t use the same email address to send again. I ended up using a 2nd email address, which felt slightly uncomfortable to me. Hyperink and you both seem very flexible so I didn’t anguish over it. Just wondering if that is going to throw off the stats though and make it look like more hits than you are actually getting?

    • Richard Nikoley on March 21, 2012 at 14:35

      I’m not worried about the stats for such a small number, but if a concern to you, shoot me an email with the two addresses you used and I’ll ask Hyperink to merge the whole giveaway into one address.

      • Paul C on March 23, 2012 at 08:44

        Not concerned about that, just don’t want any speedbumps in the process for others. Now I’m wondering if I buy it again, can I give away another 5, but I’m not sure if that would work ’cause Amazon would say I was crazy for trying to buy an ebook twice.

      • Richard Nikoley on March 23, 2012 at 09:39

        Its not that sophisticated. It just goes by the email of the giver. So, theoretically, you could give away five copies for every email you care to maintain. I don’t mind, and neither does the publisher. In fact there’s a couple of free download sites run by pirates and we’re not going to do anything about it. Other data suggests stuff like that helps and doesn’t hurt at all.

        Welcome to the Internet.

  25. Paul C on March 21, 2012 at 12:23

    More info: The page asks for your own email address, and that is the one that gives the “already used” message.

  26. Val on March 23, 2012 at 13:54

    Well Elyse already put in her plug for MJ’s “Well Fed” cookbook – I’m adding my own endorsement.

    I had previously purchased Sarah Fragoso’s “Everyday Paleo” which has the bonuses of a discussion of the paleo/primal lifestyle, exercise, inspiring before & after pics, etc – but it is clearly obvious which book was written by a SAHM, while the other is written by a working girl w/many shortcuts & timesaving tips (greatly appreciated by THIS working girl!)

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